UK to donate £38 million to Ethiopa.

mehuk said:
Im saying they are lazy because they poo in their own drinking water... they dont make the most of their natural resources and year on year, need money, food and handouts just to survive. Its a joke and its not my taxes that should be the flipping punchline.
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I'm not actually sure if you are serious now......

They don't poo or wee into drinking water. Their only drinking water is usually a river. As they don't have the industrialisation to build decent sewerage systems, the faeces leach into the river. There isn't much they can do about it. Or a goat dies upriver, rots and falls in the river. Or a child does.

The majority of Africa (certainly rural) simply hasn't had the industrial revolution. They don't have a temperate climate that makes basic survival easy, and therefore the next steps a small push away. They don't have the machinery to build sewers, 40m bore holes for clean drinking water or to efficiently mine the land (if it's worth mining at all). Much of the land is not suitable for agriculture, so basic survival is difficult, let alone making a living.

They didn't ask to be given the crappiest hand in life, to live somewhere where there are no natural resources of worth, or cultivated land, where malaria is rife and water unavailable.

I know I'd prefer my tax money to go and help someone who never had a chance, than some scummy unemployed chav dossing in a council house drinking cider and smoking dope all day.
 
feedtheram said:
Arent these deals generally linked to some sort of economic return?

We give you £30m and you only buy your pick'n'mix from woolworths sort of thing?
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that and keeping the chinese out

what was going on in africa over the past few decades? i know about the 80's stuff as i was growing up but what about the decades before that?
 
If thats the case should we not send in the people to drill wells insted of just giving someone money to do what they want with.

Didnt I see that someone had made a water thing that made water clean and was really cheap, something like a drinking flask that worked off solar power.
 
scorza said:
I'm not sure about Ethiopia, but isn't Southern Sudan supposed to have some, which is also just next door. I think the main thing about Ethiopia is that they're considered by the West to be a stabilising force in the region i.e. will launch attacks on Al Quedas in Somalia if we ask them to. I think Ethiopia is actually an economic success story for Africa, just that unfortunately there are large rural areas that are prone to drought and the government can't cope.
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Yeah, there's always the possibility that it's an easy place to get a foothold, much like Iraq in the Middle East...
 
mehuk said:
So everyone in this thread who has an opinion on Ethiopia either for or against this donation, has been there and thus has more knowledge than me?
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No, but you're the only one judging the character of an entire nation. A nation that you've never experienced firsthand.
 
I see the word 'greed' mentioned in a few of the posts in this thread, as well as references to Comic Relief - and then for some reason I think of Dawn French and Jo Brand ...

Oh the irony ...

:rolleyes:
 
platypus said:
Common sense post #1.

However; I think we need to stop giving the governments of these countries the money, and have a managed solution in place with the charities that work there in order to ensure the money goes to where it is most needed.
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This, tbh - one of my friends just came back from South Africa (one of the better off parts of the continent) and gave me a bit of insight into what is wrong with Africa - unlike us in the developed world, these countries didn't develop naturally, but were technologically accelerated at a massive rate (much faster than, say, we were by the Romans).

Unfortunately, they are still in the mindset of "Take everything you can, or else someone else will". Hence the political corruption, the purchase of guns instead of infrastructure, etc.
 
explicit4u said:
Africa is not the EU, you can't just move between countries.
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Indeed, and if you can move, why move to another African country when you could move to a European country. After all, one thing Europe needs more of is immigrants from Africa.
 
OldCoals said:
You say that, billions has been pumped in and yet again the same situation rears its head again. Now I know that there is not a magic rain machine but we all know that in the near future aid will be needed again, something has to change.
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You are right, something has to.change. The way in which the West and Asia trade and exploit Africa needs to be readdressed along with a systematic and comprehensive reevalution of what the Global Community can do to both stabilise and modernise Africa with the help of the African Nations themselves.

Something Id like to point out for the people who keep bring up the issue of giving the Ethiopian Govt money, We are not, the money will be going to NGOs and Relief Organisations to supply food and water to the short term relief programme.
 
mehuk said:
And there we have it, thread closed please.
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Not really, but I can see why you think so and I also realise nothing anyone says will change your mind.

It's in the same vein as us, at this time of being 'skint', are still going ahead and spending £25 billion (which will prob end up being £100 billion) on a new Trident replacement, how many new hospitals would that build us?

The same as India spending billions on a space program while it has millions of some of the poorest people in the world.

The world is a crazy place full of crazy people but if we can give an extra 38M to help millions of people out of immediate danger, through no fault of their own even if their own Government has let them down, then do it, it's nothing to us.

And we are not the only people giving, the UN has requested $529M for Somalia and $525M for Kenya, to give some other examples...as the drought isn't only restricted to Ethiopia.
 
Freakbro said:
The world is a crazy place full of crazy people but if we can give an extra 38M to help millions of people out of immediate danger, through no fault of their own even if their own Government has let them down, then do it, it's nothing to us.

And we are not the only people giving, the UN has requested $529M for Somalia and $525M for Kenya, to give some other examples...as the drought isn't only restricted to Ethiopia.
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But 38m is a lot to us, the government keep telling us it has to cut this, that and the other to save £££, so why cant this 38m be used to help pay off our debts?

If 38m is just a drop in the ocean to us, when does this drop stop dripping? 38m per starving African country? 38m per disaster victim, 38m per EU country that fancies having 38m to play with?

Our money should stay where it belongs, at home looking after its own.
 
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