Milly Dowler's voicemail was hacked by News of the Screws

the_director said:
The real problem is the utterly powerless Press Complaints Comission and the laughable idea that self-regulation works. Those defending Murdoch because he's not being on the frontline of such journalism is to ignore the culture created by such a figurehead who judges editors by newspaper sales and political acquiescence rather than proper journalism or behaviour that meets even basic moral standards.

This is an appalling story that will get some attention in the broadsheets whilst the tabloids will bury it underneath more important news about celebrities doing inane things and essentially pretend that this never happened. Hardly any reader is likely to stop buying the NOTW, which is the only action that will change this type of journalism.
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I agree. Unfortunately you can't unless people stop buying it in the first place.
 
KNiVES said:
Murdoch Media means nothing will happen to them at all. It's not even a conspiracy theory to say that Cameron and co are in Murdoch's back pocket and nobody of any significant standing or value will go down for this. They will probably throw some poor minion under the bus saying he/she had 'gone rogue' and call it a day.
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Sadly so true

ColdAsIce said:
Boiling with rage at this, honestly sickening to know they hacked her phone ffs :(

I mean how could you sleep at night, listening to the messages of the family asking for her to come home safe and then delete messages, just so you can listen to even more! **** me
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Cant agree more. Shame it will never change I was shocked to see this. Just to think if they never deleted voicemails police may have gotten to her in time.
 
Despicable. I was annoyed about the original hacking revelations of celebs and such, but this is just vile.

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I'm deeply worried that our media is fundamentally unsound these days. I'm glade that I stopped buying papers years back, but phone tampering and some of these other actions are so wrong that I seriously worry these days.
 
Asleep at the wheel? I don't think so.

As I understand it, Ms Rebakah Wade was paid to edit the News of the Screws at the time that the paper was intercepting and deleting voicemails on Milly Dowler's mobile.

Since she later went on allegedly to assault her then husband Ross "SAS" Kemp, as a result of which she was questioned by the police, it is hard to believe that journalists on the paper knew that she would object to what they were doing and chose simply to ignore her since she was after all, only a feeble woman.

The alternative is that she simply wasn't doing the job for which she was paid this was certainly the excuse given later by Andy Coulson.

The odious Rupert Murdoch appears not to be concerned by such minor lapses on the part of his editors.

And if you believe any of that - you really shouldn't be allowed out on the streets unaccompanied :rolleyes:


As to the risk of the Grauniad jeopardising any Police investigation, I offer you the following observation from the Grauniad report:
The paper made little effort to conceal the hacking from its readers. On 14 April 2002, it published a story about a woman allegedly pretending to be Milly Dowler who had applied for a job with a recruitment agency: "It is thought the hoaxer even gave the agency Milly's real mobile number … The agency used the number to contact Milly when a job vacancy arose and left a message on her voicemail … It was on March 27, six days after Milly went missing, that the employment agency appears to have phoned her mobile."

The newspaper also made no effort to conceal its activity from Surrey police. After it had hacked the message from the recruitment agency on Milly's phone, the paper informed police about it. It was Surrey detectives who established that the call was not intended for Milly Dowler. At the time, Surrey police suspected that phones belonging to detectives and to Milly's parents also were being targeted.

One of those who was involved in the original inquiry said: "We'd arrange landline calls. We didn't trust our mobiles."
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I would suggest that the Police have known for a very long time much of what has been going on at the News of the Screws and NewsCorp in general; they just chose to cover it up. If the Grauniad hadn't printed the story, things would go on just as they have been - i.e. slowly going nowhere.

Does it really seem credible that Murdoch's mob haven't been hacking the voicemail of members of the Police force and Politicians :confused:

If either group cause any fuss, the mud will really start to fly.


As I said in my original post, Murdoch and his henchmen and women should be banned permanently from having any involvement in the media in Great Britain. Where possible, they should also be prosecuted

To suggest that NewsCorp journalists shouldn't all be tarred with the same brush is ridiculous - if they don't agree with what they have been doing for years, they can either leave or become whistleblowers - they don't do so because they are thoroughly enjoying life on the gravy train.

The dregs of society every last one of them :mad:
 
stockhausen said:
As I understand it, Ms Rebakah Wade was paid to edit the News of the Screws at the time that the paper was intercepting and deleting voicemails on Milly Dowler's mobile.

Since she later went on allegedly to assault her then husband Ross "SAS" Kemp, as a result of which she was questioned by the police, it is hard to believe that journalists on the paper knew that she would object to what they were doing and chose simply to ignore her since she was after all, only a feeble woman.
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So she smacks her husband and everyone at work is in submission!

The alternative is that she simply wasn't doing the job for which she was paid this was certainly the excuse given later by Andy Coulson.

The odious Rupert Murdoch appears not to be concerned by such minor lapses on the part of his editors.

And if you believe any of that - you really shouldn't be allowed out on the streets unaccompanied :rolleyes:
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You are naive beyond belief if you think they knew what was going on. Knowing and they should have known are two different things.


As to the risk of the Grauniad jeopardising any Police investigation, I offer you the following observation from the Grauniad report:
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I would suggest that the Police have known for a very long time much of what has been going on at the News of the Screws and NewsCorp in general; they just chose to cover it up. If the Grauniad hadn't printed the story, things would go on just as they have been - i.e. slowly going nowhere.

Does it really seem credible that Murdoch's mob haven't been hacking the voicemail of members of the Police force and Politicians :confused:
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They have said sorry for doing just that with regards to other people

If either group cause any fuss, the mud will really start to fly.


As I said in my original post, Murdoch and his henchmen and women should be banned permanently from having any involvement in the media in Great Britain. Where possible, they should also be prosecuted

To suggest that NewsCorp journalists shouldn't all be tarred with the same brush is ridiculous - if they don't agree with what they have been doing for years, they can either leave or become whistleblowers - they don't do so because they are thoroughly enjoying life on the gravy train.

The dregs of society every last one of them :mad:
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Do you think the men on the printing presses are culpable too, is that what you are saying?
 
Biohazard said:
You are calling a lot of people naive then.
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I have no doubt that didn't ask too many questions where the stories came from but that is not the same as knowing exactly what was going on.

Don't get me wrong, I am in no way condoning the actions of individuals or the newspaper, their actions are abhorrent.
 
OldCoals said:
... Don't get me wrong, I am in no way condoning the actions of individuals or the newspaper, their actions are abhorrent.
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You may not be condoning it; you certainly seem to be excusing it:
OldCoals said:
I have no doubt that [they] didn't ask too many questions [about] where the stories came from ...
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I'm not as convinced as you appear to be of the acceptability of the idea that Ms Rebekah Wade and Rupert Murdoch chose not to look too hard into how their journalists were acquiring stories and/or the legality of their methods.

You seem to be suggesting that it is appropriate for the editor and proprietor to adopt the approach of "Don't ask embarrassing questions" - the News of the Screws specialises in asking embarrassing questions, apparently whilst happily breaking the law in the process and you seem entirely happy about that :rolleyes:
 
stockhausen said:
You may not be condoning it; you certainly seem to be excusing it:
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I'm not as convinced as you appear to be of the acceptability of the idea that Ms Rebekah Wade and Rupert Murdoch chose not to look too hard into how their journalists were acquiring stories and/or the legality of their methods.

You seem to be suggesting that it is appropriate for the editor and proprietor to adopt the approach of "Don't ask embarrassing questions" - the News of the Screws specialises in asking embarrassing questions, apparently whilst happily breaking the law in the process and you seem entirely happy about that :rolleyes:
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I have in no way said I am happy or condone any of the actions.
 
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