Pfff... Optical drives...
I shall certainly be unclipping those strips though, I'll either paint them white, or some blue variation - thanks for the links!
Budget of £110 max. Which case?
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Pfff... Optical drives...
I shall certainly be unclipping those strips though, I'll either paint them white, or some blue variation - thanks for the links!
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Sometimes games are cheaper as physical discs than on Steam, and most then need the disc inserted when playing. NoCD cracks and so on are too hard work to get reliable ones IMHO, so optical drives are still a must for me. Label me cheap and lazy!
Impressions and pictures when you get it mate.
Edit -damn! Just realised if I'd seen this thread earlier you could've come to see one in the flesh before buying. I'm only in Gillingham.
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Will do. I still have an optical drive, but it's an external USB one. That way I can share it with my laptop and stuff.
There aren't that many games that require a DVD in the drive when playing (Crysis off the top of my head, and that's it).
I didn't notice you were in Gillingham either to be honest...
Shall be arriving this afternoon, so will have the build completed tonight.
There aren't that many games that require a DVD in the drive when playing (Crysis off the top of my head, and that's it).
I didn't notice you were in Gillingham either to be honest...
Shall be arriving this afternoon, so will have the build completed tonight.
Well, all built - and it's looking good!
I actually like the 'champagne' strip - it looks much better in person than in the pictures.
The stock fans aren't particularly quiet (the 120mm mainly), even on low, though they're not massively intrusive either.
As with seemingly everyone else, the PSU was the 'wrong type' to fit the plug - it amazes me that Silverstone overlooked this.
The plastic has an excellent finish - again this is made worse by the pictures, but in fact the fit and finish is very good.
So far so good, but the real testing will follow.
I actually like the 'champagne' strip - it looks much better in person than in the pictures.
The stock fans aren't particularly quiet (the 120mm mainly), even on low, though they're not massively intrusive either.
As with seemingly everyone else, the PSU was the 'wrong type' to fit the plug - it amazes me that Silverstone overlooked this.
The plastic has an excellent finish - again this is made worse by the pictures, but in fact the fit and finish is very good.
So far so good, but the real testing will follow.
Makes no difference but I would have gone for the corsair 600t in white. I'm not much of a expensive case man I just see a case as a box to hold components, but the white 600t is the only case I would part a vast amount of money with. Its beautiful.
It's £20 over budget though, and I was working to a very strict £110. Plus it's a bit large.
The 600t is mediocre for air cooling the front fan pushes less air than a fart and cannot be swapped out because there isn't enough room it's thinner than standard.
What do you mean isn't it a standard 12v 3 pin psu connector wasn't aware there are different connectors ?
Glad you like the case yes plastic doesn't photograph well the akasa eclipse always looks far worse in pictures than it is in the flesh.
Still confused as to what you mean about the psu connector though you mean the lead wont reach ?
http://www.overclock.net/computer-cases/986547-silverstone-raven-rv03-user-review-lessons.html that thread might help you I think you can make it reach
Surprised you don't rate the air penetrator fans they are superb fans and very quiet imo run my one at 800 rpm and can barely hear it.
What do you mean isn't it a standard 12v 3 pin psu connector wasn't aware there are different connectors ?
Glad you like the case yes plastic doesn't photograph well the akasa eclipse always looks far worse in pictures than it is in the flesh.
Still confused as to what you mean about the psu connector though you mean the lead wont reach ?
http://www.overclock.net/computer-cases/986547-silverstone-raven-rv03-user-review-lessons.html that thread might help you I think you can make it reach
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I think he means about what side the plug socket is on when the PSU is fitted, the cable length from the case isnt long enough to reach certain PSU's, so a few snips of some of the cable ties is all thats needed to give a bit more slack to the cable.
Yeah. It's easily fixed (already read the first review from some time ago and knew about it), but I'd have thought it would have been nice of Silverstone to have made some kind of rotating cable - like the HDMI cables you can get that swivel.
Stu - Thinking about getting Rv03 too.
Just wanted to ask in your opinion do you think there is enough room to fit a H50 rad on the internal HD cage, next to the cpu slot area. My main intention was to use the front as intake channel with a decent 120mm fans pull air through the cage from the front and put the rad at the end of the cage as a push/pull system?
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Hi Kyo.
I haven't got or in fact ever seen an H50 in the flesh, but going from the dimensions on Corsair's website (120mm (width) x 152mm (height) x 27mm (depth)) I don't think that's going to work.
The top drive bay has two 120mm fan settings, one at the front by the removable front covers & air filters, and one at the rear by the motherboard. The edge of the fan housings rest on the metal sheet the motherboard stand-offs screw into, so if you looked directly from the case front to back, you would see the fan bays "overlap" the motherboard itself rather then being offset enough to clear it. This actually only gives you roughly 28mm clearance between the fan housing and the motherboard edge along one side of the fan in my case (P8P67 Pro). This picture is probably the clearest I have to show what I mean, although the top fan housing isn't in place as I'm using 2 optical drives. You can see the lower fan housing at the bottom of the picture and (hopefully) can see what I mean about how the top one would line up with the motherboard edge:
If you want, I'll try to take a better picture tomorrow when it's daylight because all the one's I've just tried to take REALLY didn't work in the dark/artifical light.
Theoretically, this gap of approx 28mm means you could put a fan into the motherboard-side fan housing at the top, then attach the radiator (if Corsair's 27mm is correct) and then put the motherboard in and JUST clear it. In reality, this will cover up one of your cable management holes and I am sure something would get in the way and foul it up - in my case it would be the optical drive power & SATA cables, and the 8-pin ATX cable which I have looping behind the motherboard tray and coming out there. Also, you only need a screw or measurement to be 1mm out and you're scuppered, hence I don't think that placement is going to work.
If it was me and I was trying to place an H50 in the case, I would either put it where the exhaust 120mm fan is in the roof, or remove enough of the 5.25 inch drive bay trays to fit it onto the back of the front panel 120mm fan bay(rather than the motherboard side one):
The front coloured box could go anywhere from the very top down to just clearing the PSU, every bay is identical in the RV03. Just depended what else you had to go into the other bays.
You should have enough room in either position to put on two fans for a push/pull arrangement - again don't sue me if I'm wrong about this! I would probably go for the roof placement of the two as putting a fan in the front would mean you have to remove the front cover panels (and leave the filter mesh ones in place) to get some airflow through the front, and I don't think that looks as nice. Also, you would then have the front 180mm AP fan only cooling the motherboard chipset and H50 pipes before exiting the case, which seems a waste when you could use that airflow to cool the radiator. Also, that would mean less fans in the case, so quieter, and you keep the defined bottom to top airflow rather than adding side airflow into the mix too.
I haven't got or in fact ever seen an H50 in the flesh, but going from the dimensions on Corsair's website (120mm (width) x 152mm (height) x 27mm (depth)) I don't think that's going to work.
The top drive bay has two 120mm fan settings, one at the front by the removable front covers & air filters, and one at the rear by the motherboard. The edge of the fan housings rest on the metal sheet the motherboard stand-offs screw into, so if you looked directly from the case front to back, you would see the fan bays "overlap" the motherboard itself rather then being offset enough to clear it. This actually only gives you roughly 28mm clearance between the fan housing and the motherboard edge along one side of the fan in my case (P8P67 Pro). This picture is probably the clearest I have to show what I mean, although the top fan housing isn't in place as I'm using 2 optical drives. You can see the lower fan housing at the bottom of the picture and (hopefully) can see what I mean about how the top one would line up with the motherboard edge:
If you want, I'll try to take a better picture tomorrow when it's daylight because all the one's I've just tried to take REALLY didn't work in the dark/artifical light.
Theoretically, this gap of approx 28mm means you could put a fan into the motherboard-side fan housing at the top, then attach the radiator (if Corsair's 27mm is correct) and then put the motherboard in and JUST clear it. In reality, this will cover up one of your cable management holes and I am sure something would get in the way and foul it up - in my case it would be the optical drive power & SATA cables, and the 8-pin ATX cable which I have looping behind the motherboard tray and coming out there. Also, you only need a screw or measurement to be 1mm out and you're scuppered, hence I don't think that placement is going to work.
If it was me and I was trying to place an H50 in the case, I would either put it where the exhaust 120mm fan is in the roof, or remove enough of the 5.25 inch drive bay trays to fit it onto the back of the front panel 120mm fan bay(rather than the motherboard side one):
The front coloured box could go anywhere from the very top down to just clearing the PSU, every bay is identical in the RV03. Just depended what else you had to go into the other bays.
You should have enough room in either position to put on two fans for a push/pull arrangement - again don't sue me if I'm wrong about this! I would probably go for the roof placement of the two as putting a fan in the front would mean you have to remove the front cover panels (and leave the filter mesh ones in place) to get some airflow through the front, and I don't think that looks as nice. Also, you would then have the front 180mm AP fan only cooling the motherboard chipset and H50 pipes before exiting the case, which seems a waste when you could use that airflow to cool the radiator. Also, that would mean less fans in the case, so quieter, and you keep the defined bottom to top airflow rather than adding side airflow into the mix too.
You 've done far too little! and i will sue if it doesnt work. LOL 
No no! seriously you'v been a great help. Never expected you put in so much detail. Really appreciate the effort, i am still stewing whether to go for the RV02-E or the RV03.
If i could get away putting the rad in the 5.25 bay arae or there about around the HD cage i would most defintiely get the rv03. The H50 Rad itself is almost the same size of of a 120mm fan but there about 1 - 2 mm longer at the top and bottom where the tubes come out.
If i had to put the rad to top using the exhaust fan then i suppose i can go for the Rv02 with the same idea using the top exhaust but has a slightly better layout.
I am still not 100% certain like you say it will work. Your photo shows that the 120mm fan area on the rear of the cage doesnt have much room but i havent been able to clarify how (forgetting the h50 for a sec) if only fitting a 120mm fan would slot into end part of the HD cage
It would be really great if u can take almost the same photo but pan it slightly further down and to the right to show the space area next to the cpu slot.
I know it will not look as good even if it works but i was going to use the 2 front intake options i would have to take the covers off anyway to allow air to channel through. Not realy fussed about the looks as i more focused on the practicality part.
Cheers
No no! seriously you'v been a great help. Never expected you put in so much detail. Really appreciate the effort, i am still stewing whether to go for the RV02-E or the RV03.
If i could get away putting the rad in the 5.25 bay arae or there about around the HD cage i would most defintiely get the rv03. The H50 Rad itself is almost the same size of of a 120mm fan but there about 1 - 2 mm longer at the top and bottom where the tubes come out.
If i had to put the rad to top using the exhaust fan then i suppose i can go for the Rv02 with the same idea using the top exhaust but has a slightly better layout.
I am still not 100% certain like you say it will work. Your photo shows that the 120mm fan area on the rear of the cage doesnt have much room but i havent been able to clarify how (forgetting the h50 for a sec) if only fitting a 120mm fan would slot into end part of the HD cage
It would be really great if u can take almost the same photo but pan it slightly further down and to the right to show the space area next to the cpu slot.
I know it will not look as good even if it works but i was going to use the 2 front intake options i would have to take the covers off anyway to allow air to channel through. Not realy fussed about the looks as i more focused on the practicality part.
Cheers
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I've tried to take every photo I can without having to remove the CPU cooler, GPUs or RAM. I've just opened a Picasa account to pop them onto, so I hope this link works:
https://picasaweb.google.com/104797...&authkey=Gv1sRgCLqy66uFzPafJw&feat=directlink
I'm afraid they're not in any kind of order, but hopefully you'll be able to get the gist of where the picture is and what it's showing. I've also included a few pictures of the front fan bay so you can see if that might be an option if you remove the optical/HDD trays behind it.
If there's any bit I've missed, let me know and I'll try my best to capture it. Cheers.
Edit: - looking at the pictures, can't believe how much dust it shows inside the case! I certainly didn't notice that amount when I was prodding and poking it a few minutes ago - makes it look appalling.
https://picasaweb.google.com/104797...&authkey=Gv1sRgCLqy66uFzPafJw&feat=directlink
I'm afraid they're not in any kind of order, but hopefully you'll be able to get the gist of where the picture is and what it's showing. I've also included a few pictures of the front fan bay so you can see if that might be an option if you remove the optical/HDD trays behind it.
If there's any bit I've missed, let me know and I'll try my best to capture it. Cheers.
Edit: - looking at the pictures, can't believe how much dust it shows inside the case! I certainly didn't notice that amount when I was prodding and poking it a few minutes ago - makes it look appalling.
I've tried to take every photo I can without having to remove the CPU cooler, GPUs or RAM. I've just opened a Picasa account to pop them onto, so I hope this link works:
https://picasaweb.google.com/104797...&authkey=Gv1sRgCLqy66uFzPafJw&feat=directlink
I'm afraid they're not in any kind of order, but hopefully you'll be able to get the gist of where the picture is and what it's showing. I've also included a few pictures of the front fan bay so you can see if that might be an option if you remove the optical/HDD trays behind it.
If there's any bit I've missed, let me know and I'll try my best to capture it. Cheers.
Edit: - looking at the pictures, can't believe how much dust it shows inside the case! I certainly didn't notice that amount when I was prodding and poking it a few minutes ago - makes it look appalling.
Stu mate your a star!
It has given me a good picture of possibilities. If all else fails i will probably end up using the top exhaust option anyway as a backup plan because someone else has done this with a H70 and they are getting great temps.
Dont worry about the dust it only more noticeable because of the flash than it would be in rl.
cheers mate
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I had the Hoplite to review- don't touch it with a barge pole. Possibly the worst case I have ever seen. Looks good, but the quality is shocking, the paint is aweful and just feels cheap. I've seen £40 cases with much better quality. What's more, the front (and only) intake fan blows on to a metal plate which has a few small holes in it so the air may reach the HDDs, but certainly no more than that.