Milly Dowler's voicemail was hacked by News of the Screws
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Biohazard, i think you might have saved yourself a lot of grief if you had used the term 'Old Boy Network' instead
Possibly, but as they say... you live and learn.
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No, that is a list of nationalities. However, it is entirely possible that people of those nationalities could be of difference races, so it is possible that people of those nationalities could be racist to one another (just like I, as a Caucasian British person, could be racist to another British person of Negroid descent).
You posted prejudice right here in this thread. [TW]Fox, among others, picked up on it too.
Prove it
Can white UK nationals from different constituent nations be racist towards one another?
Your unevidenced presumptions are not my problem, frankly.
Prove it
Negative proof fallacy. You prove it you bad ass mofo.
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Bitter feud is bitter
I don't really think they are to be honest. Is there really enough genetic or cultural difference to distinguish between the four?
Perhaps "bigoted" would be a better term rather than racist. So someone could be an anti-Scottish bigot or an anti-English bigot. The problem of course comes from defining the difference between banter and bigotry.
Nah not really, everyone loves to jump on the bandwaggon when it comes to certain posters. It was him that spacked out initially, not me. I like the eye for an eye doctrine. I'm not bitter though I don't hate anyone here. I just hate some of their opinions
The law would disagree, thankfully. Not here, I admit, but in some cases it is clearly justified.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/37/section/96
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1995/39/section/50A
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I stand corrected, will just put that down as yet another bit of the law I do not wholly agree with.
I guess I will just have to stop thinking of some posters as "a little bit bigoted towards the English/Welsh/Irish/Scottish" and instead as "a little bit racist towards the English/Welsh/Irish/Scottish".
Again, I said similar above but what is to one man a hate rant is music to anothers ears. I'm not trying to force that definition upon you, but extending that logic into serious cases would remove certain civil liberties. Increase racism if they went? I don't know, but if we didn't have these laws we could not enforce the ECHR in terms of peaceful life and a right to no discrimination.
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You accused me of posting 'anti-Scottish rants'. How can I prove to you I didn't
. All of the relevant content is right here on this website.You also still haven't shown me why I am a racist.
Apparently under the law in this country, under the law, yes (but then also under the law, an 'Act of God' can indemnify an insurer). By the definition of the word, no.
You accused me of posting 'anti-Scottish rants'. How can I prove to you I didn't
You also still haven't shown me why I am a racist.
You have conflated the argument here, or I've got lost at how many times and things you have called me a liar about. You have ranted off about Scot's and other subjects like the poor before, as I said I'm not evidencing anything until you start with your initial accusations thrown across the board.
And no I haven't, I've explained it to you.
I'm not talking dictionary terms, I'm not sure why you are. I'm also not sure why you want to keep purposefully dragging down the levels of argument and definition.
You pointed out Race in racism, as to indicate erroneous or superflous useage. Why?
Was this purposeful, or do you belief that we cannot be racist towards one another? I don't care for you explaining defintions I already know, I want to know what you believe.
It may go some way to unraveling this.
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Ok then, we'll go by the legal definition.
Show me where I have shown myself to be a racist.
Show me where I have shown myself to be a racist.
Prove it. Show me my 'anti-Scottish rants'.
I don't know about you, but my first reference for word definitions is not the law books, and my parents never taught my legal definitions before dictionary or commonly used definitions.
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Biohazard I don't know why you are pursuing such an aggressive stance towards Hatter the Mad? I seem to remember you making a big statement about how the English are more likely to riot than us Scots.
I sometimes agree with your posts but this seems completely offtopic to me and doesn't belong in the thread.
I sometimes agree with your posts but this seems completely offtopic to me and doesn't belong in the thread.
Yeah, legal definition. You still haven't told me your beliefs on it, why?
Do you think the legal definition or wrong, or right?
As I've said I'm not evidencing anything until you start with yours.
Show me evidence of 'politics of envy' and 'eliciting prejudices'.
I'm not taking the agressive stance, he started on me.
They are, that's the thing. Statistically there are a lot more riots in England than in Scotland. There have been a lot well publicised riots recently, and obviously the historic ones. I'm not saying everyone is innocent, and England is all bad. But there are different civic behaviours displayed on occasion.
It's not racist to point that out, I simply wanted to know why people were smashing the **** out of a Tesco for what appeared to be no reason. It got me thinking, and I asked if anyone knew a reason why. It wasn't bigoted, or prejudiced as such just jumped upon by a bunch of trolls.
No doubt, again, I'll be "Anti English" through the misunderstandings of other people.
No, it doesn't. But what do you want me to do about that now, it takes two to tango and you're blaming the wrong person.
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So your accusations of me being a racist and xenophobic are still unfounded and you are still a liar, making up that I posted 'anti-Scottish rants'.
To save me quoting everyone else who interpreted the prejudice as I did too, you can start reading from here: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=19535761#post19535761.
It is besides the point. Show me the 'anti-Scottish rants', show me where I have been racist.
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