Asrock Xtreme 4 + 2500K @4.7

qbazdz · 7 Jul 2011 at 11:52

is that a Z68 or P68 mobo?

For higher o/c you might need to unlock extra power to the CPU (this is somewhere around the LLC option. Defo on that page.
found the pic

1.42V on 4.4 is way too much. Leave auto alone and try your own options.

This is a good guide to get you started:
guide

paradisiac · 7 Jul 2011 at 11:57

its a Z68 mobo, and yeh, like i said, set the CPU LLC to Level 1.

sageislam · 7 Jul 2011 at 12:49

Thank you for your help guys

bulldog147 · 7 Jul 2011 at 12:59

CPU LLC Level 7 is High (not Level 1) as level 1 is low, Level 4 is medium and Level 7 is high and level 10 is extreme high

paradisiac · 7 Jul 2011 at 13:00

bulldog147 said:
CPU LLC Level 7 is High (not Level 1) as level 1 is low, Level 4 is medium and Level 7 is high and level 10 is extreme high

ummm no, ASRock is the other way around. and they only go from 1-5 :rolleyes:

EDIT : and from all the replys everyone has been having from ASRock with BSOD issues, they have said set the LLC to level 1 to resolve it, so im pretty sure if the manufacturer is advising it, its probably the best way to go.

qbazdz · 7 Jul 2011 at 16:08

You want to selt LLC to the level the line is horizontal = level 1

Ps. Bios 1.50 is out - few ppl are getting higher clocks with same voltages as before. I will give it a go tonight!

paradisiac · 7 Jul 2011 at 16:32

qbazdz said:
You want to selt LLC to the level the line is horizontal = level 1

Ps. Bios 1.50 is out - few ppl are getting higher clocks with same voltages as before. I will give it a go tonight!

i upgraded to 1.50 and auto now sets 4.4GHz at the same vcore i was running 4GHz at, but that might be coincidence.

qbazdz · 7 Jul 2011 at 16:48

Dude... leave 'auto' alone.
Auto is a predefined setting, created by ASRock guys that is suppose to work for almost all chips.
On mine, I was ok when I set it to 4.6GHz, then tried 4.8GHz and couldn't even boot.
Plying on my own, I got up to 5.1GHz so the chip wasn't the limit.

read this to get better understanding of what you are changing and how to go about SB o/c

paradisiac · 7 Jul 2011 at 17:09

qbazdz said:
Dude... leave 'auto' alone.
Auto is a predefined setting, created by ASRock guys that is suppose to work for almost all chips.
On mine, I was ok when I set it to 4.6GHz, then tried 4.8GHz and couldn't even boot.
Plying on my own, I got up to 5.1GHz so the chip wasn't the limit.

read this to get better understanding of what you are changing and how to go about SB o/c

yeh im stuck at 4.6GHz, cant get it to post at 4.8GHz

there are way too many settings for me to understand

the 4 i get are the multiplier, vcore, llc and dram. other than those im out of my league.

EDIT : if you have any pointers then would be appreciated, i know not all settings will be identical, but a base of what to change would be helpful

qbazdz · 7 Jul 2011 at 18:44

Let me know all your current setting.
Do you know how to make screen shots from UEFI?

sageislam · 7 Jul 2011 at 19:29

qbazdz said:
Let me know all your current setting.
Do you know how to make screen shots from UEFI?

Nope, how do you do that?

paradisiac · 7 Jul 2011 at 20:26

qbazdz said:
Let me know all your current setting.
Do you know how to make screen shots from UEFI?

mines set to auto 4GHz, Auto Vcore, CPU LLC to Level 1, Dram Manually set (1333MHz 9-9-9-24 1.50v) and thats it. for 4.8GHz i had it at the same but manually changed vcore to 1.38v and still no post

UEFI lets you do screenshots? how cool is that (F12 when you have a usb flash drive inserted)

qbazdz · 7 Jul 2011 at 20:44

paradisiac explained how to do it

make sure the stick is FAT16/32 though!

bulldog147 · 7 Jul 2011 at 20:46

Level 1 LLC for 4.8GHz @ 1.38V more likely will be Level 5 to get pass the post

I am going to order this board next monday http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-051-AK and get rid of my crappy z68x ud4 b3 (not a very good board) and will order a new i7 2600K retail too. I brought mine i7 2600K oem from the shop (big mistake as it probably very poor chip as well) unstable at 4GHz even left everything on auto default on the bios. Not very happy.

qbazdz · 7 Jul 2011 at 21:13

bulldog147, check the screen
image

and tell me, do you really want llc to drop Vcore when the CPU is loaded??????

bulldog147 · 7 Jul 2011 at 21:18

qbazdz said:
bulldog147, check the screen
image

and tell me, do you really want llc to drop Vcore when the CPU is loaded??????

It didnt say what clock speed ?

qbazdz · 7 Jul 2011 at 21:25

paradisiac,

what I would change on yours is (unless I don't mention the particular setting, leave it as it is):
Optimised settings - Disable
PLL Overvoltage - Enable (and change default values to 200, which is power for CPU)
Core current limit - 200
speed spectrum - disabled
core voltage - fixed, and try 1.33V and work your way up to 1.38

see how it goes, later when you know that your 45 multiplier is stable, bump it up to 46-48.
The next stage is to change fixed voltage to offset mode and work out what it should be to only give the highest Vcore for Turbo mode.

bulldog147, how does it matter? do you know what llc does? do you understand the plot and what it means?

paradisiac · 7 Jul 2011 at 21:37

qbazdz said:
paradisiac,

what I would change on yours is (unless I don't mention the particular setting, leave it as it is):
Optimised settings - Disable
PLL Overvoltage - Enable (and change default values to 200, which is power for CPU)
Core current limit - 200
speed spectrum - disabled
core voltage - fixed, and try 1.33V and work your way up to 1.38

see how it goes, later when you know that your 45 multiplier is stable, bump it up to 46-48.
The next stage is to change fixed voltage to offset mode and work out what it should be to only give the highest Vcore for Turbo mode.

thanks for that. will give it a go over the weekend when im not working

whats the difference between fixed and offset? also, what does PLL Overvoltage actually do? i read somewhere (i think it was this setting) that enabled it meant the pc couldnt wake from sleep mode

qbazdz said:
bulldog147, how does it matter? do you know what llc does? do you understand the plot and what it means?

i dont think bulldog realises that not all motherboards are the same. ASRock have clearly stated that Level 1 is the best cure for Vcore related BSODs, just because this isnt true for his manufacturer doesnt mean its not for ours.
i tried it with all 6 settings (1-5 + Auto) and suprise suprise, Level 1 let me go to the lowest vcore without BSOD, but it must be wrong because Level 5 is the only way :rolleyes:

and from what i remember, this advice is from a guy that took his pc to a shop to get his OC setup properly. not meaning to sound rude, but if you cannot get your own system stable, then trying to force a setting on someone, when others that have managed to get their systems stable with the same hardware are giving more appropriate settings can be misleading and could cause the OP serious problems (i know LLC wont kill anything, but something like an inncorect vcore setting could)

sageislam · 7 Jul 2011 at 21:42

Just set my pc to 4.2ghz, volt @ 1.28, ram to 1600mhz and volt @ 1.56. Seems to be running ok so far. Havent done the stress test yet. Although just done the benchmarking test with prime95, seems to me only improved little bit. But i dont really understand it that much

paradisiac · 7 Jul 2011 at 22:01

sageislam said:
Just set my pc to 4.2ghz, volt @ 1.28, ram to 1600mhz and volt @ 1.56. Seems to be running ok so far. Havent done the stress test yet. Although just done the benchmarking test with prime95, seems to me only improved little bit. But i dont really understand it that much

try something like SuperPi Benchmark or 3DMark 11. see if the scores go up with them. think my 4.4GHz OC got SuperP down to 8 or 9 secs, and bumped my 3DMark 11 score up by 500-600points. there is also a winrar benchmark too.
but overall, it really depends what you use the pc for as to whether the increase in speed will be noticable in the real world.