Getting odd, I grumbled about school kids looking scruffy!

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Was driving past one of the main local secondary schools, and dropped off my wife and child for them to go to the docs. On the way through, I noticed that the vast majority of the kids, although wearing blazers (A new thing for this particular school), looked really scruffy purely because they all had their ties pull very loose and shirt buttons open. Girls/Boys, it didn't matter, it was like it was the cool thing to do.

Pretty much said.. would have been disciplined for that in my day (as we HAD to represent the school when to/from school).

Realised how old I sounded and embarassed myself, but still.... I'm clearly in the grumbly old man mood today.. but really the school should be trying to make their image better.
 
You got to wear trainers at my school. And if the teachers were in a good mood you often got let off for wearing jeans.

Was kewl.
 
When I was younger we had to wear a school uniform of Trousers, Blazer, Tie etc.

In one phase we had the skinny end of the tie showing, another phase it was a small bit of the chunky end of the tie showing.
 
I do wonder why schools bother with uniforms when they let kids get away with brutally bending the rules.

Either make them wear them smartly, or don't bother.
 
Cool story bro.
In my old school we had to keep our ties right up to the top, shirts tucked in, short hair, black shoes, blue shirts and blazers. I got sick of it and even on mufday days girls got told of for having skirts above the knees. It was a complete waste of time, I did not get anything out of this archaic regimental regime.
 
I think the whole school thing is just focusing on conditioning kids in to the whole social conformity thing anyway, rather than actually teaching them to "learn" properly.

I learnt very little through school compared to what I've tought myself anyway, and I tried my best to have as little to do with the conditioning as I could get away with.
 
Schools enforce uniforms to prevent bullying about style and/or family income.

Good idea I think tbh, we didn't have a lot of money as a kid and I would have dreaded wearing my own clothes all the time, only had one pair of jeans.
 
We had similar at my school in that we had to wear/represent the uniform to and from school but we didn't have blazers, we had polo t-shirts and jumpers which were a different colour for every year! Maroon, dark green, baby/smurf blue (!), grey and navy blue for year 11.

I agree with Kaffe, the uniform policy is a good thing to prevent bullying and promote equality.
 
Ha when I was younger, in South Africa not only were the rules strict on uniform hair and jewellery, you got into trouble and detention time if you kept your hands in you pockets ??!?? yes that is correct, your hands are cold? Buy gloves…

If you came to school unshaven off to the toilets with a Bic shaver for a dry shave.

Oh and dare you get into mischief in your school uniform, that as just playing with fire.

Oh how the times have changed...
 
Schools enforce uniforms to prevent bullying about style and/or family income.

Good idea I think tbh, we didn't have a lot of money as a kid and I would HAVE dreaded wearing my own clothes all the time, only had one pair of jeans.

I think for the most part this is just an excuse. Other countries that don't have uniformed schools get on just fine with the bullying thing.

Bullying happens either way though, if some one's going to try to bully some one, the difference of wearing a uniform and not wearing one won't change much.
 
Schools enforce uniforms to prevent bullying about style and/or family income.

I grew up in France, where my school had no uniform. I didn't notice any bullying based on clothing choice, and the family income was difficult to judge from someone's clothes when you're 14 and have no interest whatsoever in fashion :p The teachers wore smart clothes / suits though, so you almost had the "hierarchy" of the school enforced by the clothes that people wore.

edit/ I feel old today too - I got asked for directions by a tourist and they called me "sir" :o
 
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I grew up in France, where my school had no uniform. I didn't notice any bullying based on clothing choice, and the family income was difficult to judge from someone's clothes when you're 14 and have no interest whatsoever in fashion :p The teachers wore smart clothes / suits though, so you almost had the "hierarchy" of the school enforced by the clothes that people wore.

This is pretty much the truth, I am at college at the moment and I can't imagine anyone being bullied over what they wear.
 
I think for the most part this is just an excuse. Other countries that don't have uniformed schools get on just fine with the bullying thing.

Bullying happens either way though, if some one's going to try to bully some one, the difference of wearing a uniform and not wearing one won't change much.

I'm honestly ashamed of my self...

Granted there is nothing you can do to stop bullying, there will always be someone who thinks they're better than someone else. I just think the idea of uniform is in the right place.

Maybe that was just me then, got some serious **** for not being rich enough for daddy to buy me a the latest trend every week.
 
College is from 16-18 and many schools have sixth forms that do the same job. So why shouldn't it be used in this discussion?

People tend to grow up by that age. School was a living hell for me from about 11-14. After that it was pretty much plain sailing.
 
We had the works, blazers, caps, ties, jumpers. Even the sports kit was in school and house colours. Must have cost my parents a fortune. Of course the school had one important thing and that was discipline.
 
I'm honestly ashamed of my self...

Granted there is nothing you can do to stop bullying, there will always be someone who thinks they're better than someone else. I just think the idea of uniform is in the right place.

Maybe that was just me then, got some serious **** for not being rich enough for daddy to buy me a the latest trend every week.

If that was the case, I'd have been targetted. Monatary issues aside, I wasn't, and still not the least bit interested in the "latest trends", and believe that type of stuff is more for those who can't think for themselves, but have to be told what they "think".
 
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