my partner wants a new phone, she keeps going on about an iphone. I am trying to get her to get something else (galaxy s2). but she really likes the apps that apple do, and thinks android wount be good engough in this department even though the phone is so much better tech wise. can anylne help me talk her round? or is there another phone out or about to come out that would be good
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can anybody else see the irony here? I dont like the way apple tries to tell us what to do with their phones, so im trying to tell my gf to buy a different phone instead?
consider the galaxy 2 - will she make use of the better hardware? will she appreciate the added complexities of the UI? does she even need an android phone?
consider the galaxy 2 - will she make use of the better hardware? will she appreciate the added complexities of the UI? does she even need an android phone?
Please get over yourself. Yea android is a nice platform but not everyone needs it. IOS is a great OS for almost anyone.
My non tech friends dont get the "android thing" they dont understand how to use it they think their iphone is the best thing ever, I think that kinda shows how good IOS is. They think Android is a geeky thing but in reality the hardware and other aspects of the iphone are just as geeky they just don't release it due to how cool IOS is.
My non tech friends dont get the "android thing" they dont understand how to use it they think their iphone is the best thing ever, I think that kinda shows how good IOS is. They think Android is a geeky thing but in reality the hardware and other aspects of the iphone are just as geeky they just don't release it due to how cool IOS is.
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Don't talk someone into buying something based on the 'politics' of freedom. No one cares.
You state the apps on Android wouldn't be able to do what she wants on iOS but yet the hardware is better. So that reads as better hardware without the apps to even use it.
She sounds like the tweaking that comes with Android is of no value to her so an iPhone is what I'd get.
You state the apps on Android wouldn't be able to do what she wants on iOS but yet the hardware is better. So that reads as better hardware without the apps to even use it.
She sounds like the tweaking that comes with Android is of no value to her so an iPhone is what I'd get.
when you put it like that, i guess. but cost is still a big factor, to buy out right the iphone is a rip off and the congtract deals aint goood either
gonna wait of the iphone 5, lest it wont be a year old bit of tech
gonna wait of the iphone 5, lest it wont be a year old bit of tech
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ah now if cost is an issue then that is fair enough. but unless you are paying for this let her get what she wants.
If you're totally anti-apple for it's own sake I'd say Windows Phone 7 given how cheap some of them are getting. Take her out to try one though, as "Windows Phone" has none of the positive, 'cool', fun connotations Microsoft hoped it would have, but the boring business nerdy connotations of Windows Mobile.
You could try to turn her around with the idea that the WP7 phones are newer, or perhaps phones like the htc 7 pro having qwerty keyboards for texting?
The app store is getting better from all reports I'm hearing and with the new manufacturers, especially Nokia, for the Mango update, I wouldn't be surprised if they get better and better.
If you absolutely must convince her to use Android, you could probably argue that Google+ integration will be much better on Android phones than on the iphone?
You could try to turn her around with the idea that the WP7 phones are newer, or perhaps phones like the htc 7 pro having qwerty keyboards for texting?
The app store is getting better from all reports I'm hearing and with the new manufacturers, especially Nokia, for the Mango update, I wouldn't be surprised if they get better and better.
If you absolutely must convince her to use Android, you could probably argue that Google+ integration will be much better on Android phones than on the iphone?
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If iOS and the associated applications are the best choice fair enough. However,in many cases because of the strong marketing and brand presence a lot of people make the assumption that other phone operating systems are rubbish or have no useful applications without even trying out the other alternatives. Even the arguments about app quality are overblown TBH.The OP should show her the options out there and the range of applications available too. I would also calculate the full contract costs if the budget is also more limited. At least this way if she does choose iOS it is because the alternatives have been looked at too.
I know non-techy people and Apple fans who actually tried Android and ended up getting Android phones themselves.
I know non-techy people and Apple fans who actually tried Android and ended up getting Android phones themselves.
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Got that the wrong way round didn't you? Sim free prices aren't much different to any other high end phone... Contract prices are a ripoff.
TBH stop trying to persuade her to go android, it isn't "perfect" for everyone and the latest dual core/graphics isn't what most people want. Something less powerful but better looking/easier to use for them would make much more sense...
Best bet is to get her into a phone shop and try an iPhone4, SGS2 and Omnia 7, that way she can play with each OS and phone style and see which she likes the most... She might hate the 4.3" screen as for a lot of people it's too big to use as an actual phone, especially women with small hands, which is why there are plenty of other smaller options around.
No. Get her an iPhone. That is what she wants and that is what she will get on with.
She is absolutely right about apps, Apple apps are generally much better.
Saying the Galaxy S II is 'so much better' in the tech department isn't really accurate either. It is overall slightly better in some ways but not for everyone.
I'm a 'tech head' and I very much like Android but I am perfectly happy on iOS, as would most of you be if you managed to get over the Apple hatred.
I know it's off-topic, but I have to deal with this idea that for not owning apple products, we tend to get branded as haters, blindly screaming in rage and foaming at the mouth every time the name Jobs is uttered. (It's come up a few times recently for me
)I have no apple hatred.
I dislike apple products as they're not for me, that does not mean I have anything against the products inherently, I have more against (a large amount of, not you) their userbase for gobbling up the marketing and being such sheep.
Why I don't have an iphone:
Too expensive
Up until iphone 4 the screens were stupidly low resolution for web phones
Flash is v. important to me in a smartphone
The screen is too small for my eyes for web browsing and for my hands for texting
The autocorrect 'feature' has caused far too many errors for me to forgive (I can't think of a single non-T9 text system which I've ever received errors on, certainly not on the scale of the people I know with iphones. (That may be a comment on them rather than autocorrect, but I cannot conclusively be sure)
No qwerty keyboard/swype
I dislike the apple ecosystem and lack of file compatability
If we're looking at why I don't own any other apple products
I don't own an ipad for most of the reasons outlined above. (If I had the money for a tablet it would be an Eee Transformer)
I don't own an itouch as an internet device like that is nigh on useless to me without 3G.
I don't own an ipod as the sound quality, to my ears at least, is too dire and the products too expensive. (I use a Samsung P3, which is just fine and cost lest than the equivalent Nano at the time I bought it)
I don't own an imac/macbook as they're too expensive for my usage, don't have the gaming capabilities I'd want and I live largely in Adobe applications and on the web, so OS makes little difference except in price.
The 'just works' feel is very true, but Android is stable and Windows Phone 7 just as user friendly as iOS. I can see plenty of people getting on just fine with an iPhone, and I probably could as well, but I'm not going to pay through the nose for the opportunity when cheaper phones suit me better.
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If she wants an iPhone, get her an iPhone. She is the ideal iPhone user - iPhones are not as good as android devices, are more limited, but they 'just work' and they 'are cool' which to be fair is probably all she wants.
This is exactly why I got my GF an iPhone despite hating them.
This is exactly why I got my GF an iPhone despite hating them.
It's a case of whether you'd be frustrated by not knowing how to do something, or not being able to do something.
On iOS; if it's possible, then most remotely technically able people can do it.
On Android; if it's possible, then you should be able to do it, but you'll need a certain level of know-how and willingness to work with the software.
The question of what suits you for the most part is whether you'd be more frustrated by not being able to do something at all (as on iOS e.g. Flash/customisation) or if you'd be more frustrated by being confused by seemingly simple or minor things (as on Android e.g. customisation, battery saving, using windows explorer). As tech geeks for the most part, the majority of us would be fine googling a quick fix or workaround to get the most out of our tech, and would run into walls on iOS devices pretty quickly, whereas people like your girlfriend and the majority of the apple userbase will get stressed if any workaround is required, and are less likely to run into the walls of customisation or file support that we might.
On iOS; if it's possible, then most remotely technically able people can do it.
On Android; if it's possible, then you should be able to do it, but you'll need a certain level of know-how and willingness to work with the software.
The question of what suits you for the most part is whether you'd be more frustrated by not being able to do something at all (as on iOS e.g. Flash/customisation) or if you'd be more frustrated by being confused by seemingly simple or minor things (as on Android e.g. customisation, battery saving, using windows explorer). As tech geeks for the most part, the majority of us would be fine googling a quick fix or workaround to get the most out of our tech, and would run into walls on iOS devices pretty quickly, whereas people like your girlfriend and the majority of the apple userbase will get stressed if any workaround is required, and are less likely to run into the walls of customisation or file support that we might.
Is that any sort of confirmation though? The rumours are that it'll only be a 4S as the CPU is overheating in the casing of the 5
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No I don't work for apple but if apple don't have anything out before end of September I'll eat my hat - I don't think anyone outside of apple realistically knows what it's going to be called as even the test handsets arn't marked typically.
1/4 to 1/3 of phones sold in a year are sold at Christmas, they need a month to establish a good supply in the channel which means you realistically at the latest have it ready to go 2-3 months beforehand. It's also numbers game - the 4 still sells OK but in the UK and US Half 2 for 2011 are strategically more important than normal for contract re-signs due to the first "round" of 24 month contracts ending.
1/4 to 1/3 of phones sold in a year are sold at Christmas, they need a month to establish a good supply in the channel which means you realistically at the latest have it ready to go 2-3 months beforehand. It's also numbers game - the 4 still sells OK but in the UK and US Half 2 for 2011 are strategically more important than normal for contract re-signs due to the first "round" of 24 month contracts ending.