A repressive establishment smothering dissent

We have people dying for their beliefs all over the Middle East see people's protests in Greece and France; why is it that the British, who are renowned around the world for complaining all the time, are so sheep-like over the abuse of power by the establishment :confused:

So why aren't you doing something?

You seem pretty sheep like.
 
I don't think the tactic of "kettling" is a good idea. However in the midst of a lolstockhausen thread I doubt you'd get sensible debate anyway.

lets face it it though, it's 10x better than the continental alternative which is to gas them, spray them and beat the living **** out of them.
 
Hang on, my irony meter has gone into overload!

Aww leave him alone he's just suffering a minor breakdown from guilt after spending ages canvassing/campaigning IRL, telling people they were voting for "change" to have this lot elected :p
 
He has a point though - how many of us whine about current affairs yet never actually do anything other than argue about it on here with great vengeance and fuuurrrious anger.

I bet most of you don't even write to your MPs.

Can proudly say I have whilst at uni. Had to complain about the adequacy of expecting 5 fully grown men to require only one wheelie bin for a fortnights worth of waste, when the "one wheelie bin" rule was based on the average household of something like 2 adults and 2 children. Needless to say I got what I wanted. :D

Both sides are as bad as each other. Yes the police can be heavy handed sometimes but so can the rentamob (anarchists) who tag along to a protest they have nothing to do with, intent on causing as much damage as possible.

*ahem* Charlie Gilmour *ahem*

Read in the paper yesterday, some columnist said how she can sympathise with the lad because he was standing up for what he believes in. I personally call BS on that. Gilmour went to the riots like many more little toff's purely because they "could" let loose for a while. And I call further BS on the fact that he didn't know what the cenotaph was. You don't have to be a genius to know that it signifies some cultural importance and alcohol/drug consumption is no excuse.

The police can indeed be heavy handed, but you don't really know what its like until you're in those police lines. That guy who died because the officer struck him on the leg or pushed him over or whatever it was and fell over bumped his head and died wasn't intended to be killed. The fact he died makes it seem all the more brutal. Many others would have been struck on the legs by the police with a kosh or pushed about and wouldn't have died. It's unfortunate that guy did and the result was a likely consequence of both him being hit and him being drunk and thus unable to withstand being struck/pushed.

But then on the other hand there are acts by the protesters which are undoubtedly brutal and intended to cause harm. When they throw projectiles at the police, that can only be for one purpose. It's not to start a huge game of piggy in the middle. Most notably when the protesters got on top of tory HQ and one of them threw a fire extinguisher of the roof down to the policemen. There's no way you could argue "i didn't want to hit anyone" because the guy would have known he was throwing it down towards a huge crowd. It was inherently dangerous and life threatening. All it had to do was hit one person to most probably kill them, it's the most reckless thing I've seen from all the recent protests/riots.

As for the British being "sheep-like" and not protesting against the "smothering", that could be because the majority clearly don't have that big a problem with it. Most would look at those foreign countries where there are huge protests and be grateful our country is as cozy as it is. In reality life in the UK is pretty good.
 
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So when are you going to do something about it stockhausen? Are you willing to kill yourself for your beliefs, or are you forever destined to sit in your comfy chair in front your luxury item of a PC, forever posting your free voice on a PC enthusiasts website about how you hold any and all forms of government in utter contempt - ironically something an establishment of dissent would never allow?
 
lets face it it though, it's 10x better than the continental alternative which is to gas them, spray them and beat the living **** out of them.

Yes it is better than that but hardly suitable for what we call a democracy and the right to peaceful protest.
 
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