Amy Winehouse found dead

Castiel said:
So because I do not share your faux greif and distress at the death of a celebrity I should not be posting my opinion?
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I have no 'faux greif and distress' at the death of a 'celebrity' - I couldn't care less whether she was a celebrity or not. I just don't like the sort of sentiments being expressed by some - within minutes of the announcement that a young woman has died.

You've mainly posted that she doesn't deserve any recognition, as the majority of 11 pages of posters also seem to be doing - kind of ironic don't you think? ;)
 
Craterloads said:
Like i said before its got nothing to do with showing her respect. Its just common decency, a young woman had DIED...
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It has everything to do with respect otherwise people would not keep telling me to show some respect just because a young woman has died.

I am not desecrating her, insulting her family or friends personally, her family have my sympathy, it is never easy to lose someone you love regardless of how flawed their character or live may have been.

But I will be damned if I will be a hypocrite and give what I do not think she deserved in life simply because she died, regardless of how tragic the circumstances.



Craterloads said:
On the topic of here being worthy of respect or not, im not in the position to decide. Im not a fan so dont know her history apart from she was a druggy and a singer. I dont know how she was as a person, daughter, sister etc what charity works she's done etc but of coarse you must have done a lot research into her character to paint her with that brush.
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Due to her high media profile much of her life is a matter of public record and while I am sure she has redeeming traits in her character, she never really shared those characteristics with those who seem to respect her so much now she has died.
 
Neil79 said:
You don't know anything about my knowledge ;), I hardly ever watch Xfactor but i'm glad the sarcasm is working on some people!
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You've illustrated your lack of knowledge by your comments.

What was the sarcasm?

Neil79 said:
These are singers


Note my limited knowledge ;)
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Noted. Sure they can sing. So could Amy Winehouse. You are clearly clouded by your opinion and taste in music.
 
RIP!!:(

A troubled individual who was always on a course of self destruction which ultimately was always going to cost her life at a young age ...
 
Jambo said:
Noted. Sure they can sing. So could Amy Winehouse. You are clearly clouded by your opinion and taste in music.
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It comes down to this

You think she has a lot of talent, you think she can sing really well, you think by liking this person is a good taste in music.

I think otherwise, I'll leave it there
 
deSade said:
I have no 'faux greif and distress' at the death of a 'celebrity' - I couldn't care less whether she was a celebrity or not. I just don't like the sort of sentiments being expressed by some - within minutes of the announcement that a young woman has died.

You've mainly posted that she doesn't deserve any recognition, as the majority of 11 or 12 pages of posters also seem to be doing - kind of ironic don't you think? ;)
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I think you do not understand the context fo the definition of recognition even though I have actually told you in what context the word was used.

It is not recognition as in "Look there is Amy Winehouse", it is recognition as in "Amy Winehouse deserves the Nobel Peace Prize".

That kind of recognition, not the other, so it is not ironic at all.
 
Neil79 said:
These are singers



Note my limited knowledge ;)
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Yes, they're technically very good, and if you like them, that's absolutely cool. But there's no magic there. No different from any of the singers Lloyd Webber would put in one of his shows. Tell me what's unique. I can't find anything, they're just very good normal singers. I'm talking about something like this, unqiue sound with all sorts of twists and turns to paint a more interesting musical picture, try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT88jBAoVIM
 
wannabedamned said:
Get off your high horse! Good singing is good singing, bad singing is bad singing. Good singers CAN be found on Xfactor, just like bad singer can.

No offence but your knowledge of talents, abilities and how they can be found anywhere, seems very limited.

You seem somewhat narrow minded
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I never said good singers couldn't be found on X Factor. You're right, good singing is good singing.

Amy Winehouse = good singer
Leona Lewis = good singer

If we're talking purely about singing then fair enough my comment about X Factor isn't really valid but someone like Amy who writes, plays and sings to the level she did is much more talented than your regular X Factor contestant.
 
Castiel said:
I think you do not understand the context fo the definition of recognition even though I have actually told you in what context the word was used.

It is not recognition as in "Look there is Amy Winehouse", it is recognition as in "Amy Winehouse deserves the Nobel Peace Prize".

That kind of recognition, not the other, so it is not ironic at all.
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I think it is you that is reading things into this - I don't see anyone suggesting she deserves great recognition for being an 'ultimate' human being, just some people suggesting that it is a sad 'waste' of life - but sad nonetheless.
 
Castiel said:
I am not desecrating her, insulting her family or friends personally, her family have my sympathy, it is never easy to lose someone you love regardless of how flawed their character or live may have been.
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No you are not, but you jumped into the middle of a discusion regarding decency and the inappropriate things that were being said in the thread, which you appear to defending.

In a way you are being a hypocrite saying the quoted above yet are defending other posters that have quiet frankly made disturbing comments about the death of a young lady.
 
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Jambo said:
If we're talking purely about singing then fair enough my comment about X Factor isn't really valid but someone like Amy who writes, plays and sings to the level she did is much more talented than your regular X Factor contestant.
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Agreed, Matt Cardle won Xfactor last year, Unfortunately he hasnt done much since, He was fantastic before Xfactor touched him though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3K15_PCfn8

Song writing ability, Plays and sings. Then Xfactor grab him, he becomes manufactured and disappears amongst the fodder. :(

I just wish his band had made it big without Xfactor, I imagine they would have done much better
 
Biohazard said:
I agree with what you've said but I'll add an observation if you may allow; it may be unfair comparison but in refusing to recognise her death would you also lets say walk past her lying dead in the street without a blink?

I have the same criticisms as you, but it is not a bad thing to hold humanity and humility for even those you disagree with.

Capiche?
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I am not failing to recognise her death, I am refusing to recognise the positive impact she is deemed by some to have had on people in general, and I am refusing to give her the kind of respect and recognition of accomplishment that some seem to think she deserves and I do not.

If I was in a position to save her life, or even to make her final moments in this life a little better then I would have gladly done so, however that doesn't imply that I should respect her more in death than life simply because I am capable of showing humanity and kindness to someone I have little in common with or indeed find rather abhorrent.

Remember I have spent a significant amount of my life attempting to help those that had little or no respect for me and in many cases would have taken my life even as I was saving theirs. I understand empathy, humanity and mercy all to well.
 
A chuckle was had at people outraged of the news coverage of this over Norway.

The salient point of news is the word 'new' which this now is. Norway was yesterday.

I do await the posts saying hurrr you don't care about Norway. I do, but it's not 'new' anymore.

A great voice - RIP
 
I personally think that it's a tragedy that a thread on Amy Winehouse's death is growing faster than, and will probably overtake, a thread on the death of many in Oslo, who didn't even bring it on themselves.
 
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