Sell my current GFX and upgrade now or wait?

LateX'Dog · 25 Jul 2011 at 16:44

Hey guys, i currently have 2x GTX 460's 1gb and i'm thinking of selling them and upgrading to either a 1.5gb GTX 580 or 2gb ATI 6970.

Would now be a good time, or is there a next gen on the way?

mysticsniper · 25 Jul 2011 at 16:49

Are you struggling in games with your current setup?

LateX'Dog · 25 Jul 2011 at 16:56

mysticsniper said:
Are you struggling in games with your current setup?

Witcher 2 and Crysis 2 maxed bring it down to the low 40's to low 50s FPS.

I'm just thinking about the future. Like Skyrim, SWTOR and other PC titles.

opethdisciple · 25 Jul 2011 at 16:58

Wait untill the we know more about the new cards ....

7000 ATI cards due before end of 2011, no idea about Nvidia.

Nocky24 · 25 Jul 2011 at 17:01

If you're just worried about future releases, I'd stick with what you have now and make a decision when they're out.

Personally I'd wait until the next gen, unless your current setup isn't coping with what you need it to do

Nymins · 25 Jul 2011 at 17:02

If you are getting 40-50 in Witcher 2 maxed, then your setup is fine at the minute

Drex · 25 Jul 2011 at 17:10

Id wait till the 28nm cards mate im on a 4890 and dyin to upgrade but im gonna wait it out... was hopin they'd be here for the release of BF3 though but not lookin good atm.

harmony · 25 Jul 2011 at 17:26

If you could wait for the 28nm cards that would be a better option. By "upgrading (downgrading)" to a single GTX580 or a single HD6950 2GB, you gain more vram for high AA under high resolution, but may slightly lose the GPU power in some cases.

pecnarf · 25 Jul 2011 at 17:31

well i got a bfg gtx 285 OUCU, im thinking on getting a gtx 460/GTX 560ti or GTX 570 but leaning more towards a 460 to tie me more until the 28nm come out as the GTX 460 im looking at is just little over £100

Drex · 25 Jul 2011 at 17:37

pecnarf said:
well i got a bfg gtx 285 OUCU, im thinking on getting a gtx 460/GTX 560ti or GTX 570 but leaning more towards a 460 to tie me more until the 28nm come out as the GTX 460 im looking at is just little over £100

Yea same mate iv been tempted to get a 570 till the 28's are out, tryin to resist but if the 28's aint out for BF3 release i think ill crack lol

but at least they may be down to around £200 by then.

pecnarf · 25 Jul 2011 at 17:55

from what i read online ati 7xxx series(28nm) will be out first sometime between november and december time as for nvidia 6xx(28nm) their no released date just Q1/Q2 of 2012. so will their be 28nm either b4 or on bf3 releases i highly doubt it. hence why i am look at the 460 it should be a big improvement over my current card im not spending mega money ie £200 or more.

pecnarf · 25 Jul 2011 at 17:58

to anwser OP i would stick with your current 2x460 for now and wait until q1 of next year reason being prices on the gtx570/GTX 580 will have come down by then plus we should be see the first 28nm cards coming out.

mikeo · 25 Jul 2011 at 18:19

pecnarf said:
well i got a bfg gtx 285 OUCU, im thinking on getting a gtx 460/GTX 560ti or GTX 570 but leaning more towards a 460 to tie me more until the 28nm come out as the GTX 460 im looking at is just little over £100

I would TOTALLY recommend the MSI 460 HAWK at that price. I've had one since launch day and it's been a great little card. They OC well and mines been 100% stable. Though luck of the "core" as to what it will go to. Would recommend a custom fan profile though to keep the fan at 50% or below, as the stock fan profile is a bit aggressive and you can hear it once it ramps up if you have an otherwise fairly quiet case.

Meanwhile back on topic....

From a personal point of view I would stick with your SLI config if you are happy with it, pretty much for the already stated reasons.

Though considering a 580 GTX myself, more because I fancy a change and have the money to blow on something at the moment. Think it will be the MSI 580 GTX Twin Frozr version as my experience with the 460 HAWK has been so good.

Have fun whatever you decide to do.

PS. Did think about SLI with the HAWK (especially at the price they are) but I suspect there would be heat issues with the cards dumping most of the heat in the case.

'Wes · 25 Jul 2011 at 22:44

LateX'Dog said:
Witcher 2 and Crysis 2 maxed bring it down to the low 40's to low 50s FPS.

I'm just thinking about the future. Like Skyrim, SWTOR and other PC titles.

Erm, that's still playable frame-rates.

pecnarf · 25 Jul 2011 at 22:58

mikeo said:
PS. Did think about SLI with the HAWK (especially at the price they are) but I suspect there would be heat issues with the cards dumping most of the heat in the case.

from what i under stand is that the MSI GeForce GTX 460 HAWK "Super-OC" being a non rev design that msi had solve the heating and some of the power hungry issues that were present in the 4xx series rev cards.

mikeo · 25 Jul 2011 at 23:14

pecnarf said:
from what i under stand is that the MSI GeForce GTX 460 HAWK "Super-OC" being a non rev design that msi had solve the heating and some of the power hungry issues that were present in the 4xx series rev cards.

Not sure I really understand you!?

What I'm getting at, is that the cards don't exhaust the hot air, they dump most of it in the case. One card runs fine, even with a custom fan profile to keep the fan speed at, or below 50%, the temp in games etc. hardly goes above 60C. BUT... add a second card below your current card and it dumps it's heat onto the top card, causing the top card to run hotter (as it's breathing pre heated air from the bottom card).

One card is fine. In fact I would go so far as to say it's probably one of the best (if not the best) 460 that's been made.

Marine-RX179 · 26 Jul 2011 at 07:06

LateX'Dog said:
Witcher 2 and Crysis 2 maxed bring it down to the low 40's to low 50s FPS.

I'm just thinking about the future. Like Skyrim, SWTOR and other PC titles.

Those frame rate is fine, and for Witcher 2 I would recommend NOT enable UberSampling, as that graphic options kill frame rate by 55-60%. While it make the graphic looks a bit "different" than with it not enabled, it does NOT make it look "better" in anyway.

Also, no single GPU card on this gen is fast enough to worth "downgrading" from your GTX460 SLI. Also, if you have not overclocked your GTX460s, you are wasting them

Most would happily do 850MHz plus on the core clock.

David2655 · 26 Jul 2011 at 08:25

Ill add a penny to the "wait" jar. if your getting perfectly playable framerates with everything maxxed on something like the witcher 2 any "upgrade" you made would cost quite a bit for a minimal performance increase, i'd wait until an upgrade will give you a significant performance benefit. good luck!

LateX'Dog · 26 Jul 2011 at 17:12

mikeo said:
PS. Did think about SLI with the HAWK (especially at the price they are) but I suspect there would be heat issues with the cards dumping most of the heat in the case.

I have 2x 1gb Asus DirectCU 460's. They do pump the heat into the case, but i have a fortress FT02 with 3 huge fans at the bottom pumping in cold air and pushing out the warm.

LateX'Dog · 26 Jul 2011 at 17:13

Marine-RX179 said:
Those frame rate is fine, and for Witcher 2 I would recommend NOT enable UberSampling, as that graphic options kill frame rate by 55-60%. While it make the graphic looks a bit "different" than with it not enabled, it does NOT make it look "better" in anyway.

Also, no single GPU card on this gen is fast enough to worth "downgrading" from your GTX460 SLI. Also, if you have not overclocked your GTX460s, you are wasting them Most would happily do 850MHz plus on the core clock.

Can only get 810mhz stable on the cores