• Competitor rules

    Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.

Upgrading to 6-cores... Worth for gaming?

Other that CPU bound Physics (Waste of time anyway seeing as it;s so slow compared to GPU based stuff) surely if you need any more than 4 cores to run a game you are going to be GPU bound anyway?

Unless you are running stupid res with stupid-way Xfire/SLI that is?
 
I would definitely go for the i7-950 from those choices, even with GTX580m SLI you will still be GPU limited a lot of the time (assuming it's a high resolution screen).
 
Games are starting to use more cores. As mentioned, BFBC2.

Check this:
http://www.overclock.net/pc-games/861216-bfbc2-cpu-scaling.html

Looks like BC2 will scale to as many cores as it needs to.

But I still say a highly clocked quad core is the best value for money, and probably will be for a while

I'd only start recommending more than quad when BF3 comes out and it turns out that Intel 2600k gives noticeable improvement over 2500k at 4ghz or something.
(since 2600k has hyperthreading/'fake cores' as such)


Although if you're running Tri+ sli/crossfire apparently the more CPU the better
 
Games my use 4 or more cores, but the real question is is it any benefit? I have my 2500K clocked based on core usage and it's usually only using 3 threads which yields a 4.6GHz clock.

UT3 and others are now and have always been irrelevant as who cares if you get 180fps with a dual core and 200fps with a quad.
 
Games my use 4 or more cores, but the real question is is it any benefit? I have my 2500K clocked based on core usage and it's usually only using 3 threads which yields a 4.6GHz clock.

UT3 and others are now and have always been irrelevant as who cares if you get 180fps with a dual core and 200fps with a quad.

Pointing out the facts to the question of what uses 4 cores is the point & is a relevant answer to the question & the question had nothing to do with fps.
 
Last edited:
i had 1090t, and basically, gaming wise 0 difference, 955 OC'ed can perform as good as any. However, i will get dozer when its out, simply becouse video editing is needed in my case
 
Games are starting to use more cores. As mentioned, BFBC2.

Check this:
http://www.overclock.net/pc-games/861216-bfbc2-cpu-scaling.html

Looks like BC2 will scale to as many cores as it needs to.

But I still say a highly clocked quad core is the best value for money, and probably will be for a while

I'd only start recommending more than quad when BF3 comes out and it turns out that Intel 2600k gives noticeable improvement over 2500k at 4ghz or something.
(since 2600k has hyperthreading/'fake cores' as such)


Although if you're running Tri+ sli/crossfire apparently the more CPU the better

Remember - Used != Saturate

Being able to use 10 cores is all well and good but not much of a point if only a small load is applied.

Exactly, the thread linked in the quote shows a 1 ghz i7 quad giving more than playable fps as a 4Ghz quad, still not maxed out cpu and the same minimums as the four times faster quad.

Just because it CAN use more threads doesn't mean it NEEDS more threads.

Most games are advertising hype, just because some company bangs on about how many threads they can use, or cores, doesn't mean it needs all the performance from every core to max out a game.

The 1Ghz i7 is getting only 20fps lower average than the 4Ghz, and you can bet your life on the fact that going from 1-2Ghz gives a vastly larger improvement than going from 3-4Ghz.

I mean keep in mind, cpu processing power has increased 400%(maybe more when you take into account decreased latency), yet average performance hasn't come close to increasing by 100%, circa 35-40% increase in average framerate but realistically 50 won't feel very different to 70, especially when the minimums are essentially identical.

Now, in a laptop I "might" pay the extra for a hex core, might, and theres two main reasons for that, if its a 32nm chip over a 45nm quad then it could be a better power option for a laptop AND because upgrading a laptop is a lot less easy than a desktop if you wanted to keep the laptop for a few years the hex MIGHT come into its own at a later date.

Personally I'd buy a cheaper laptop thats more than capable now and a new laptop thats more than capable and a heck of a lot faster a year or two later, overall it would cost a lot less.

IE buy a 6970 based laptop with a cheaper quad core now and then in a year upgrade to a 7970 based laptop, or ayear after that upgrade to a 8790 based laptop, etc, etc, you'd save a crapload of money and while the 580gtx m sli would be faster for a year, if you keep it for say 3 years, 2 years you have it, it will be slower than a new laptop. Basically paying through the teeth for future performance almost always costs more than upgrading yearly with value components that yield similar performance to start with and WAY more a year or two later.
 
Last edited:
BFBC2 already does & runs my hex at 80% & pegs it at 100% while loading maps & Dirt3 benefits from 6 cores.

Well according to your sig, you have two 4gb 5970s. You've got to admit, you're a bit of a special case. :P

I have a 965BE at 3.4ghz, with Crossfire 5830s. It's enough to run BFBC2 at a solid 50+fps (minimum, I don't care about max or average), at 1920x1200, all settings as high as they'll go. The CPU never goes over about 50%, for an average user with a single graphics card, I doubt they'd see more than 1-2fps increase using a hex over a quad.
 
Well according to your sig, you have two 4gb 5970s. You've got to admit, you're a bit of a special case. :P

I have a 965BE at 3.4ghz, with Crossfire 5830s. It's enough to run BFBC2 at a solid 50+fps (minimum, I don't care about max or average), at 1920x1200, all settings as high as they'll go. The CPU never goes over about 50%, for an average user with a single graphics card, I doubt they'd see more than 1-2fps increase using a hex over a quad.

Your bottleneck is your GPU because my Quad 975BE @ 4Ghz was pegged at 100% most of the time while playing BFBC2.

And again can do & need too are 2 different things & my point & my reply's are about what games can use.
 
And i was wondering, how much difference will i see between thses CPUs Phenom II x4 955BE vs i5 2500k vs Phenom II x6 1090T in 1280x720 resolution (Gaming) ?

i mean, im upgrading, but i dont know if i should go for the i5 eyes closed or just get a Phenom x4/x6 to match 1280x720 res...?

will i see too much improvement for 100-140 (50-80 if x6) ? will it worth in terms of long term gaming ? i mean i could really save those and start saving again so when the time comes (2 years) go for a new BD or Ivy Bridge (or whatever new tech is around that time) or should i just go for the i5 ?

the real problem is the resolution wich im stuck at (im not buying another monitor since i tend to use them till they die... not worth buying another one imo, but thats me) so will i see enough difference (FPS and quality) to actually go for the i5 ?

im on a hurry (literally) AND I CANT WAIT FOR BD (nor i will buy a first bunch of CPU since almost all times the come with problems, and they release an "upgrade")
 
Last edited:
i had 1090t, and basically, gaming wise 0 difference, 955 OC'ed can perform as good as any. However, i will get dozer when its out, simply becouse video editing is needed in my case

Its depended on the rest of your set-up whether or not it will make any difference & the games you play.
 
Last edited:
OP: In a nutshell, no. In the future, yes, but by that time the current quad and hex core cpu's will be old and crappy.

Hex cores are made for you to think it is better. The way that manufacturers promote anything to make their product look better :). This goes for computers, cars....anything really! Over a year ago I bought into the 'futureproofing' of the P55A motherboard by getting one with Sata III and USB 3. I haven't got any USB 3 devices still and the Sata III is slow and doesn't even have TRIM (so is basically naff). Now Sata III hard drives are the norm (for decent SSDs) and my Sata III controller is pretty much useless.
 
Last edited:
In a word no.

No game in existence that uses all 6 cores
you need to do some research before posting.

there are games that uses all 6 cores, the main two are BFBC2 & Dirt3...

also more and more of the upcoming game releases will be optimized for 6 cores+

tbh more cores is the way it's gonna be.. theres a limit on how far amd / intel can boost the clock speed.
 
By the time this happens the current hex cores will be (by OCUK standards) 'old tech' though.
but it's already started that we seeing games being optimized for 6 cores+

it maybe old tech in the next 2months, (when the BD is out), if you always wait/put off till new tech comes, u will never buy anything
 
but it's already started that we seeing games being optimized for 6 cores+

it maybe old tech in the next 2months, (when the BD is out), if you always wait/put off till new tech comes, u will never buy anything

at lower resolutions (1280x720) is performance more CPU or GPU restrictive ? because im on a problem if i should go for a phenom ii x4 and save some money (around 100) instead of the i5 2500k, so i can save that money, get more and see what does mid/late 2012 has to offer, but will we see a lot of increase in performace between this SB and the IB/BD ?

im upgrading from an Atlhon x2 5600+, and i just cant wait any longer lol

PD: paired with an HD5770 1gb Saphire OC
 
Back
Top Bottom