Difference between GTX560 and GTX560Ti?

[paradisiac]

what are the differences between the cards? and is it worth the extra money for the Ti?

 

[Marine-RX179]

The GTX560 only has 336 Stream Processor, whereas the GTX560Ti has 384 Stream Processor.

So the GTX560Ti is faster, whereas the GTX560 is more like a slightly beefed up GTX460.

 

[paradisiac]

oh so am i better getting a GTX460 2GB over a GTX560 1GB? (the GTX560 is about £30 cheaper than both the GTX460 2GB and GTX560Ti 1GB)
im looking at

GTX560 1GB £136.20

Key Features:

•GPU GeForce GTX 560
•Core Name GF114
•Processor Technology 40 nm
•CUDA Cores 336 cores
•Processor Clock 1620 MHz
•Graphics Clock 810 MHz
•Memory Clock 4008 MHz
•Memory Amount 1024 MB
•Memory Type GDDR5
•Memory Interface 256-bit
•Bus Type PCI-Express 2.0
•HDCP YES
•SLI Interface YES
•Microsoft DirectX 11 support
• NVIDIA CUDA technology with CUDA
• C/C++,DirectCompute 5.0 and OpenCL support
• NVIDIA PhysX technology
• NVIDIA SLI ready
• NVIDIA 3D Vision Ready
• NVIDIA 3D Vision Surround Ready
• NVIDIA PureVideo HD technology
• PCI Express 2.0 support
• Two Dual]link DVI-I connectors
• One Mini-HDMI 1.4a connector
• Dual-link HDCP-Capable
• OpenGL 4.1 support
•PCB Size : 20.95cm(L) x 11.11cm(W)
• Cooler : 2 Slot
• Bracket : 2 Slot
•SPARKLE DVD Driver x 1
• SPARKLE Manual x 1
• DVI to CRT adapter x 1
• Power cable 6pin x 2
• MiniHDMI adapter x 1 or Mini HDMI cable (optional)

GTX460 2GB £164.94

Key Features:

•Product Description: SPARKLE GEFORCE GTS460 2048MB DDR5. HDCP. DUAL DVI. HDMI. SLI. PCI-E
•Interface Type: PCI Express
•Chipset: nVidia GTX460
•Memory Clock Speed: 3800Mhz
•Core Clock Speed: 700Mhz
•Shader Clock Speed: 1400Mhz
•Cores: 336
•Memory: 2048MB DDR5 256BIT
•DX Supported: DX11
•Monitor Connectivity: 2 x DVI-I
•TV/HD Output: HDMI
•Cooling: Fan
•PSU Requirements: 300Watt
•Multi Card Support: SLI Capable

GTX560Ti £178.92

Key Features:

•Microsoft DirectX 11 support
• GDDR5 product
• 40nm Processor Technology
• Native MiniHDMI & HDMI 1.4a support
• integrated Audio for HDMI
• All solid capacitors insure reliable
• and stable operation
• Large capacity 1024MB

More Information
Microsoft DirectX 11 support
NVIDIA CUDA technology with CUDA C/C++,DirectCompute 5.0
and OpenCL support
NVIDIA PhysX technology
NVIDIA SLI ready
NVIDIA 3D Vision Ready
NVIDIA PureVideo HD technology
PCI Express 2.0 support
Two Dual]link DVI-I connectors
One Mini-HDMI 1.4a connector
Dual-link HDCP-Capable
OpenGL 4.1 support


GPU GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Core Name GF114
Processor Technology 40 nm
Processor Cores 384 cores
Processor Clock 1645 MHz
Graphics Clock 822 MHz
Memory Clock 2004 MHz
Memory Amount 1024 MB
Memory Type GDDR5
Memory Interface 256-bit
Bus Type PCI-Express 2.0
HDCP YES
SLI Interface YES

 

[betaspin]

Subjectively, similarly clocked GTX 560 and GTX 560 Ti are next to indistinguishable when playing Crysis 2. One advantage of the GTX 560 Ti is that it is available in NVidia reference form, e.g. as the EVGA GTX 560 Ti PFB or SC. The reference cooler is, on the whole, better than the the Gigabyte, Asus and MSI alternatives which do not cool that much better, can be noisier, and exhaust too much hot air within the case.

 

[paradisiac]

do the GTX460s overclock well, so i could get it to atleast the same or similar spec of the GTX560?

 

[paradisiac]

Subjectively, similarly clocked GTX 560 and GTX 560 Ti are next to indistinguishable when playing Crysis 2. One advantage of the GTX 560 Ti is that it is available in NVidia reference form, e.g. as the EVGA GTX 560 Ti PFB or SC. The reference cooler is, on the whole, better than the the Gigabyte, Asus and MSI alternatives which do not cool that much better, can be noisier, and exhaust too much hot air within the case.

i will be getting a sparkle card as this is all our supplier has in my budget, and i need to buy from them as i cant afford it until my cards sell, so will be on a kind of 'credit' system.

 

[betaspin]

I would overclock a graphics card only if it was water cooled, or had something like an Accelero XTREME Plus on it. The temperature can get out of control way too easily.

 

[betaspin]

The Sparkle SX560T1024D5-MH GeForce GTX560 Ti is reference design and should be quite reasonable.

 

[paradisiac]

I would overclock a graphics card only if it was water cooled, or had something like an Accelero XTREME Plus on it. The temperature can get out of control way too easily.

ok, so does that rule the GTX460 being ruled out, even with the extra ram?
i really want to get it ordered today so its here tomorrow.

 

[paradisiac]

The Sparkle SX560T1024D5-MH GeForce GTX560 Ti is reference design and should be quite reasonable.

the SX560T1024D5MH is the one for £178.92, so is it worth the extra money over the SXX5601024D5MH @ £136.20?

 

[betaspin]

The GTX 560 Sparkle is SXX5601024D5S-MH and appears to have a slightly modified GTX 460 reference cooler. Probably all right, but I would prefer the SX560T1024D5-MH.

 

[paradisiac]

The GTX 560 Sparkle is SXX5601024D5S-MH and appears to have a slightly modified GTX 460 reference cooler. Probably all right, but I would prefer the SX560T1024D5-MH.

the one im looking at is the SXX5601024D5MH not SXX5601024D5S-MH not sure on the difference.

 

[betaspin]

Had not seen the price difference, too much. The SXX5601024D5S-MH should be fine.

P.S. The "S" might be for a slight factory overclock.

P.S.2. Yep, this is what it is, 900 vs 810MHz.

 

[paradisiac]

Had not seen the price difference, too much. The SXX5601024D5S-MH should be fine.

P.S. The "S" might be for a slight factory overclock.

Specification
Model Number SXX5601024D5MH / SXX5602048D5MH / SXX5601024D5SMH
Graphics Processing Unit Geforce GTX560
Core Clock 810 MHz / 810 MHz / 900 MHz
Memory Clock 4008MHz / 4008 MHz / 4008 MHz
Memory Type 1024MB GDDR5 / 2048MB GDDR5 / 1024MB GDDR5
Memory Interface 256-bit 256-bit
CUDA cores 336 cores
Stream Processors Clock 1620 MHz 1800 MHz
Bus Type PCI-Express 2.0
Outputs miniHDMI x1 DualLink DVI x2

looks like a 90MHz OC

Outstanding Performance Power Consumption Ratio
Thanks to the improved 40nm core manufacturing process at TSMC, now the SPARKLE GeForce GTX 560 Graphics Cards have outstanding performance power consumption ratio than ever. Compared with previous generation products, the SPARKLE GeForce GTX 560 Graphics Cards also feature a special cooling system and a hardware power monitor circuit which deliver higher performance/Watt ratio. Tested in SPARKLE R&D lab, the SPARKLE GeForce GTX 560 Graphics Cards have the same power consumption as GeForce GTX 460 graphics card, but providing 28% more performance in today hottest games.

28% increase in performance over GTX460? really

 

[betaspin]

No, I guess that the increase at the same clocks is 12-15%.

 

[paradisiac]

Meeting Overclocker's Dream
The SPARKLE GeForce GTX 560 Graphics Cards provide higher overclocking capability to overclockers. Tested in SPARKLE R&D lab, the core speed of SPARKLE GeForce GTX 560 Graphics Cards can be overclocked over 10%, bringing blazing frame rates in hottest DX 11 games, such as Civilization V, Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X 2 and so on.

10% oc bring it to near the 900MHz? or is it still not worth it?

are we leaning towards the GTX560 at the cheaper price?

 

[betaspin]

Well, they have the same cooler on the 810 and 900MHz versions, so it should be possible to overclock the cheaper 810 to 900MHz. Still, you will need to run FurMark for at least 15min and keep an eye on the temperatures to be sure that the cooler can cope (which cannot be guaranteed).

 

[paradisiac]

Well, they have the same cooler on the 810 and 900MHz versions, so it should be possible to overclock the cheaper 810 to 900MHz. Still, you will need to run FurMark for at least 15min and keep an eye on the temperatures to be sure that the cooler can cope (which cannot be guaranteed).

would the 90MHz (thats the only difference i can see) be a noticable difference?
also, would one of these manage games at 1920x1080 with ease?
obvs i have 2xHD6850 which should beat a single card, but with the issues i think a single card is best option.

 

[betaspin]

I have run Crysis 2 @ 1920x1080 and max everything on a 830MHz Gigabyte GV-N56GOC-1GI, and it was fine, apart from the fact that when the card was hitting 80 deg, the plastic frame was distorting a bit and one of the fans was beginning to hit it, producing an annoying rattle, due to which the card went back.

 

[paradisiac]

I have run Crysis 2 @ 1920x1080 and max everything on a 830MHz Gigabyte GV-N56GOC-1GI, and it was fine, apart from the fact that when the card was hitting 80 deg, the plastic frame was distorting a bit and one of the fans was beginning to hit it, producing an annoying rattle, due to which the card went back.

so these cards run hot?

i have crysis 2 on max @ 1920x1080 (i think) and it seemed playable. i just have issues with AA and on some games i get like a pause, or it looks like it jumps like 3 or 4 frames for no reason.