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AMD 7000 Series to be released in August along with Deus Ex: Human Revolution?

There's no hinting, he specifically said it would be coming with new AMD hardware, though it's possible it could be Bulldozer? Though the guy in the interview mentions a card.
 
Doesn't suggest "new" hardare to me, his wording suggests that the game will be given away with selected hardware from the current range - the exact details of what hardware still to be decided.
 
Why would they bundle a brand new game with a display driver?

Definitely seems to me that there'll be a new card out soon.
 
Wouldn't be the first time IIRC I think ATI gave away lost coast and another source game with a driver release once - I certainly can't see them giving away a major release game complimentary with a driver release tho.

Theres nothing in that video to suggest a new card release tho unless you really really twist his words.
 
Interviewer: "We have the opportunity to include the Game coming free with purchase of some select AMD hardware that's coming soon, so I can't talk about that yet".

Interviewee: "Does that mean I get a card to then".

@opethdisciple

It looks like their will be a 3D driver, but that doesn't explain the "new hardware we can't talk about", and that hardware is unlikely to be BD as they openly talk about that.

Also AMD 28nm GPU's are scheduled for 2011 and according to Semiaccurate, AMD are rumoured to be using a different process at TSMC that will allow them to launch 28nm way before Q1 when the 28nm HP process is expected to be ready.

http://semiaccurate.com/2011/07/19/southern-islands-kepler-and-apples-a6-process-puzzle-outed/


Then there was the below recent story:

"Advanced Micro Devices remains very optimistic about its ability to ship graphics processing units (GPUs) made using 28nm process technology this year. The company believes that 28nm node will not only provide it an opportunity to offer advanced graphics chips "shortly", but also to get lower manufacturing costs as a result of work with both of its foundry partners."

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/graphics/display/20110726103803_AMD_Expects_to_Be_First_GPU_Designer_with_28nm_Graphics_Chips.html
 
Rroff said:
Wouldn't be the first time IIRC I think ATI gave away lost coast and another source game with a driver release once - I certainly can't see them giving away a major release game complimentary with a driver release tho.

Theres nothing in that video to suggest a new card release tho unless you really really twist his words.
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Glad you realised that was a silly comment Lol.
 
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While I'm not saying there won't be a new card coming soonish... your seeing what you want to see in his words.

Take a more objective view and it suggests he can't talk about it because the exact details of the deal haven't been finalised yet and that the deal of getting the game with select AMD hardware is coming soon - now I could be wrong as the exact meaning of his wording is somewhat vague but theres certainly no solid suggestion of a new card either.
 
^^^
It's called deduction, info garnered from multiple sources pointing to the same outcome.

Besides the confidence/smugness of the interviewee confirms it for me, especially with all the talk of 'upgrading his rig'.
 
He could just as easily be taking a cheeky punt at the chance of getting a free upgrade to a 6950 or something.

Early adopters of AMD's next gen will get royally shafted if they do release early on a hybrid LP tho - I'm betting they won't get a free upgrade to the real deal a few months later - maybe even the 6870 fiasco all over again.
 
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I think he 'might' be referring to the fact the 6800's wasn't called 6700's?
I personally don't see the fiasco though?

Equally I don't see the fiasco of AMD moving it's products from 28nm LP to 28nm HP 6 months later? Would Rroff argue that GTX 280 purchasers were "Royally Screwed" when the 285 was released?

The sad thing is though, I predicted this reaction from Rroff, simply because it isn't positive news for Nvidia...
 
I can think of a dozen people who've complained they moved to the 6870 expecting a change like moving from 4870 to 5870 and 3870 to 4870 so I'd call that a fiasco.

285 was a refresh, relatively small performance gain and quite awhile after, moving from hybrid low power process to a proper high power one is likely to result in a pretty big performance increase and likely to come fairly soon after the intial launch and no doubt theres gonna be a lot of retailer price gouging... so early adopters are quite likely to get burnt - I don't see even AMD playing down the initial cards and producing something more akin to the 4770 in branding and price - you can bet they will be pushed as next gen high performance cards and priced to match.
 
Rroff said:
I can think of a dozen people who've complained they moved to the 6870 expecting a change like moving from 4870 to 5870 and 3870 to 4870 so I'd call that a fiasco.
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So is the 9800 and GTS250 a fiasco Rroff?


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285 was a refresh, relatively small performance gain and quite awhile after,
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Well you know Nvidia's reputation with process tech, tbh it shouldn't have taken them so long.

Rroff said:
moving from hybrid low power process to a proper high power one is likely to result in a pretty big performance increase and likely to come fairly soon after the intial launch and no doubt theres gonna be a lot of retailer price gouging... so early adopters are quite likely to get burnt - I don't see even AMD playing down the initial cards and producing something more akin to the 4770 in branding and price - you can bet they will be pushed as next gen high performance cards and priced to match.
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If the hybrid process is well suited to AMD arch then there is no reason why that should be a different situation from the GT200 refresh.
From rumours and past history this will likely be around 5 to 7 months after release, this is quite along time considering GPU's used to often be released every 6 months, add to the fact it will be likely be around 9 months before Nvidia release their new GPU's...
 
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Rroff said:
I can think of a dozen people who've complained they moved to the 6870 expecting a change like moving from 4870 to 5870 and 3870 to 4870 so I'd call that a fiasco.
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Serves them right for not researching it first.

When AMD switched to 40nm they gave us a mid range card in the form of the 4770 in April 2009 which was a full 5 months before we saw the new top end 5 series built on the same process. All the talk has been about an September/October release for the 28nm cards but we haven't yet seen anything on 28nm as yet so I wouldn't get to excited if your expecting AMD to roll out the big guns.
 
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So is the 9800 and GTS250 a fiasco Rroff?




Well you know Nvidia's reputation with process tech, tbh it shouldn't have taken them so long.



If the hybrid process is well suited to AMD arch then there is know reason why that should be a different situation from the GT200 refresh.
From rumours and past history this will likely be around 5 to 7 months after release, this is quite along time considering GPU's used to often be released every 6 months, add to the fact it will be likely be around 9 months before Nvidia release their new GPU's...
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You should know my take on the nVidia rebranding by now :S

AFAIK the delay in 280 to 285 was due to waiting on the 65nm to 55nm shrink and nothing to do with how slow or fast nVidia progress.

What facts? theres no credible public information for either AMD or nVidia releases atm.
 
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