Murdoch shaving foam attack guy gets 6 weeks in jail

No idea why people are annoyed about this. He committed assault with a weapon. Granted, it was shaving foam on a plate but it's still a weapon which carries a greater aggravation than not using a weapon.
 
See my post under the first post.

Yes but unfortunately Police Assault is not seen as being as serious as assault on a member of the public contrary to popular belief

If you don't believe me then ask Von Smallhausen or any coppers on this forum. If someone has a number of charges against them then Police Assault is normally the first one bartered away.
 
No idea why people are annoyed about this. He committed assault with a weapon. Granted, it was shaving foam on a plate but it's still a weapon which carries a greater aggravation than not using a weapon.
So you think it is proportionate for someone to throw shaving foam at someone to get 6 weeks and some idiot who steals a car, recklessly endangers motorists and pedestrians lives and does thousands of pounds worth of damage gets 0 weeks?

And I'm not arguing law here I'm asking your opinion.
 
Yes but unfortunately Police Assault is not seen as being as serious as assault on a member of the public contrary to popular belief

If you don't believe me then ask Von Smallhausen or any coppers on this forum. If someone has a number of charges against them then Police Assault is normally the first one bartered away.

Ah yes but that's in exchange for the "get off scot free" card for the officers in return. ;)
 
Yes but unfortunately Police Assault is not seen as being as serious as assault on a member of the public contrary to popular belief

If you don't believe me then ask Von Smallhausen or any coppers on this forum. If someone has a number of charges against them then Police Assault is normally the first one bartered away.

Police assault is not seen as serious because the individual police officer isn't as rich is what you're saying.

Fact is, a guy I know hit someone with a bottle, which could have severely physically scarred the victim (regardless of whether he was an off duty cop (a member of the public at the time)). And he walked with a suspended sentence.

Murdoch gets hit in the face with a shaving foam pie on a paper plate and the attacker is given a six week custodial.

People up and down the country walk with suspended sentences for carrying out attacks using more lethal weapons than a paper plate and shaving foam.

The sentence is a joke. It's political posturing. He was made an example of.

Don't pie the rich, or you'll do time.
 
So you think it is proportionate for someone to throw shaving foam at someone to get 6 weeks and some idiot who steals a car, recklessly endangers motorists and pedestrians lives and does thousands of pounds worth of damage gets 0 weeks?

And I'm not arguing law here I'm asking your opinion.

Nope. At no point did I say they are the same. The car theft one should have been dealt with more severely but that doesn't mean that the assault in question should be dealt with by taking other forms of crime and their respective punishments into account.

Sentences are passed in isolation to other cases so comparing them is a waste of time even if, in common sense terms, the resultant sentence seems barmy.

The Sheriff/Judge receives information from various sources prior to sentencing. Social Work reports, good behaviour reports, medical reports, mitigating statements by the defence team etc etc all of which the Sheriff/Judge must take into account when choosing a sentence.

All this information is given to the Sheriff/Judge to help in supposedly make a more appropriate sentence for the accused but ultimately the decision lies with the Sheriff/Judge.


My own thoughts - I agree, a lot of sentences are barmy but I am just explaining the semantics behind them which doesn't mean I agree with them.
 
Attacked him? They threw some shaving foam at him for God's sake not punched him in the face. Get a grip. The fact this even went to court is an embarrassment in itself.
 
The sentence will be more to do with where he did it rather than what he did. Messing about in a parliamentary comittee is pretty similar to messing about in a court room.
 
Police assault is not seen as serious because the individual police officer isn't as rich is what you're saying.

Now you are just putting words in my mouth.

Police Assault is not seen as serious because it just isn't. Sod all to do with being rich or poor, its something I have see/heard from victims direct (yes police officers can be classed as victims as well)
 
Yes but unfortunately Police Assault is not seen as being as serious as assault on a member of the public contrary to popular belief

If you don't believe me then ask Von Smallhausen or any coppers on this forum. If someone has a number of charges against them then Police Assault is normally the first one bartered away.

Not that long back, assault PC was an auto 6 month sentence. It is a statutory offence under the Police Act. I forget the section, 90 something I think.

Assault or resist PC can be argued down during a plea but it doesn't happen every time.
 
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