Graduated with a 1st, no job

i left uni on 16k a year - i was pretty lucky as i got into the company through regular temp work that ended up becoming a permanant position....at the same time i also had the chance to work for the police but turned it down despite how amazing it was as it was contract work and i needed the security.

im now on 26k a year and looking at a promotional opportunity to 30k in 2 months time.

Dude, remember this. You didn't get lucky. You made your own luck. You accepted the temp job and that became a full time position, because you proved yourself, with the right attitude and a good work ethic. You believed in yourself and your employers eventually believed in you.

I find that there are far too many academics who lack common sense and expect their degree to get them the job. This is not the case and providing you have a good work ethic and are able to sell yourself (on paper or in person), I promise you, you will go far.

Too many people are using bad grades as an excuse as to why they are not getting a job. Just work hard, be positive, be creative, work on your sales/interview skills and I promise you...your job search will bear fruit. Now, whether you accept the job offers, is another story (as some Grads prefer to remain unemployed than accept a lower paying job).

I also contend that they should perhaps get together with a friend/colleague/acquaintance and think about creating/running with their own idea. You never know where it can lead. And a young age is the best time to try out risky strategies. Once you have a mortgage/wife/kids etc, you probably won't take any risks.

As always, I wish people the best of luck in their job hunt.
 
I recently graduated with a first, had a job lined up before I even had my marks. FWIW, every single person on my course who graduated also had jobs lined up before our graduation, ranging from smallish (50-100 employees) software consultancy type places to GE/Bloomberg types. Computer Systems Engineering. Furthermore, this is from a 'crap' uni (UWE).
 
Dude, remember this. You didn't get lucky. You made your own luck. You accepted the temp job and that became a full time position, because you proved yourself, with the right attitude and a good work ethic. You believed in yourself and your employers eventually believed in you.

I find that there are far too many academics who lack common sense and expect their degree to get them the job. This is not the case and providing you have a good work ethic and are able to sell yourself (on paper or in person), I promise you, you will go far.

Too many people are using bad grades as an excuse as to why they are not getting a job. Just work hard, be positive, be creative, work on your sales/interview skills and I promise you...your job search will bear fruit. Now, whether you accept the job offers, is another story (as some Grads prefer to remain unemployed than accept a lower paying job).

I also contend that they should perhaps get together with a friend/colleague/acquaintance and think about creating/running with their own idea. You never know where it can lead. And a young age is the best time to try out risky strategies. Once you have a mortgage/wife/kids etc, you probably won't take any risks.

As always, I wish people the best of luck in their job hunt.

yeh i guess your right, and i do agree with you in that there are many people who leave uni with not a clue on what to do and in a way they have been misguided. misguided as for a year or more they will have friends, family, academics essentailly say "oh you went to uni = top dollar straight away."

top dollar may be for the very few but your average joe needs to wise up and expect a lot less , knowing that in the future a bit of patience working could end up paying out.
 
Is it really that difficult to get a job post-degree, with a decent degree? I'm pretty much guaranteed a job when I graduate but I never really considered it that much of a positive to the career. I figured if I had a similar standard degree in another field I'd still be able to find a job, which would probably pay more. Starting salary in chosen career is pretty ****, at least in my eyes.
 
Is it really that difficult to get a job post-degree, with a decent degree? I'm pretty much guaranteed a job when I graduate but I never really considered it that much of a positive to the career.

It could be that you are motivated and are pro-active when dealing with job applications. It could also be that you are good at selling yourself in interviews. If you are, then this would explain why you are/were able to find jobs with ease. There are a lot of youngsters who find job hunting hard work and laborious.
 
It could be that you are motivated and are pro-active when dealing with job applications. It could also be that you are good at selling yourself in interviews. If you are, then this would explain why you are/were able to find jobs with ease. There are a lot of youngsters who find job hunting hard work and laborious.

It's a bit different for me. All medical graduates are currently guaranteed a job in the UK. I've never had a problem with interviews though, never failed one. Although I've only ever worked part time jobs. Luckily I've been constantly in employment since I was 16 though.

Hmm. Maybe it is a positive that you have 99% employability with it. Never thought about it as a "perk" per se as I can't see myself unemployed regardless of if I went into another degree. Hmm..
 
Luckily I've been constantly in employment since I was 16 though.

That sentence is key.

You have to remember that many graduates (and that includes top grads), have never had a job before in their lives.

The fact that you have had a job of some sort, since the age of 16 would impress ANY employer. This shows a hard work ethic and the fact that you are pro-active. More importantly, it shows that you can hold down a job and know how to get along in the work place.

Couple your work history with decent grades and I can well understand why you haven't failed a job interview.
 
That sentence is key.

You have to remember that many graduates (and that includes top grads), have never had a job before in their lives.

The fact that you have had a job of some sort, since the age of 16 would impress ANY employer. This shows a hard work ethic and the fact that you are pro-active. More importantly, it shows that you can hold down a job and know how to get along in the work place.

Couple your work history with decent grades and I can well understand why you haven't failed a job interview.

I'm sorry but pretty much all students I know have jobs, except the odd exception. The jobs they have are completely irrelevant to their chosen careers though(retail, waiters, etc), and some graduate schemes explain that this is the case, often in the small print it says work experience is not that important because they expect students to have irrelevant jobs. Getting up to work everyday is normal, and keeping a job is fairly easy.

Getting just any job is easy, getting a decent job to support your family is hard.
 
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Next time we go for a beer I'll ask my mate who works there out for a beer as well ;)

KaHn

:D

My comment was slightly jokey as I'm okay here at the moment, but a good opportunity should never be passed up.

And a correction. Beer will most likely be beers, and scotch, and tequilla and anything else I can pick out of my patchy memory! :D
 
Well this thread is making depressing reading. In my 2nd year, got a highish 2:2 this year, will probably need to up my game next year to increase the overall average to 2:1.

To be fair, with at most 3, usually 2, sometimes 1 days revision for each exam (had 7) at the end of the year, that hopefully shouldn't be too hard, but I guess we'll see.
 
To be fair, with at most 3, usually 2, sometimes 1 days revision for each exam (had 7) at the end of the year, that hopefully shouldn't be too hard, but I guess we'll see.

:eek: Is that all? :eek:

You're either really clever or the course must be pretty easy.
 
Iv graduated from college, getting a job completely different from what i graduated in. Why not go work for tescos? they always want till workers!
 
Dude, remember this. You didn't get lucky. You made your own luck. You accepted the temp job and that became a full time position, because you proved yourself, with the right attitude and a good work ethic. You believed in yourself and your employers eventually believed in you.

I find that there are far too many academics who lack common sense and expect their degree to get them the job. This is not the case and providing you have a good work ethic and are able to sell yourself (on paper or in person), I promise you, you will go far.

Too many people are using bad grades as an excuse as to why they are not getting a job. Just work hard, be positive, be creative, work on your sales/interview skills and I promise you...your job search will bear fruit. Now, whether you accept the job offers, is another story (as some Grads prefer to remain unemployed than accept a lower paying job).

This.
 
For me i just graduated with 2nd and i don't have any work experience for the degree i achieved in, i started looking for a job and so far the ones i've seen required work experience and they didn't really seem interested in grades and portfolio work i got from uni.... i did find one work place but without pay for work experience but travelling cost is bit of an issue :(
 
Quite.

212, both panthro and I are special retards with a 2:2 degree and are doing rather well for ourselves in the Oil & Gas industry. KaHn, also a member on here is in the same boat as well.

That gives me hope, it is very de-motivating having rejection after rejection come through. I'll have to stick at it.
 
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