Riots in Tottenham, London! (NO RACIST COMMENTS)

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If firearms were legal would the shop owners been around to defend their property?

Would the looters and rioters had the nerve to do what they did ? Would it had been worse... if all them had guns... ?

yes it would be worse

both the looters and the people defending their property would have guns

how can that end well
 
The tests have already confirmed that it wasn't fired.

AFAIK the actual quote is theres no evidence its been fired, they are now sending it for tests, which suggests they haven't confirmed it, they just assume it based on something. Anyway, not fired doesn't mean not drawn, ot waved around and at that point, when police think he'll fire, then the police have every right to shoot.

I don't care either way, he did something stupid, a cop did something stupid, a cop might have tripped and fired as he did so, who knows, its got smeg all to do with stopping OTHER thieving scum burning down london.

If it was anger at the police, attack the police, not steal for yourselves. I could almost understand people who knew Duggan, and maybe more in the local area getting angry at the police, but they didn't directly attack the police, they went off to steal crap. its a poor excuse, the riots need to be dealt with, the IPCC seriously needs to STFU because they have no business stirring this crap up without a final report, at all and the riots need to be dealt with swiftly and hard.
 
Life isn't all about facts, its important to hear other people's views before making any judgement.

And other people's views on why the guy got shot are more important than the facts? I would disagree but this is a futile argument for both sides... so back on topic...

Guy on the phone on the BBC stating 2000 people in the middle of Manchester :eek:
 
If you wave a gun at armed police then you deserve to be shot. End of.

The police are not a brutal force out to get law-abiding citizens. They are there to protect us. These liberal civil-liberties advocates have the collective IQ of a retard.
 
THat might just be the dumbest thing I've ever seen posted anywhere.

An officer who got shot, went to hospital but had no injuries was released should be punished?

Are you completely ******* retarded? Go down to a police station ask them to take you to a firing range, put a kevlar vest on and let them shoot you, when you're winded, struggling to breathe and in a lot of short term pain and ask to be taken to a hospital, they'll all laugh at you and call you a ****.

er, he didn't actually get shot at all. He was lying.

It hurts getting shot, people get minor injuries from being shot all the time, bullet proof vests stop the bullet going through your skin, they don't stop the impact or the energy being absorbed, and its painful. How much can a paintball hurt through semi thick clothing, then think if it was a metal slug moving MUCH faster.

er, he didn't actually get shot at all. He was lying

Its a precaution, you get taken to the hospital, maybe you've broken ribs, maybe you haven't. Punish him, seriously, how completely stupid.

er, he didn't actually get shot at all. He was lying. his police mate shot his police radio after the event to try and back up the lie with the 'my radio saved me from the evil drug dealer who we then had to shoot' line. It was all very daft (what were they thinking .. this story jsut didn't stand a hope of remaining undetected! Tards!!). I think they should both be punished.

Why don't they wear camera's, because lots of coppers would be, unfairly, put in jail. You shove someone a little to hard, then also trip and cut themselves, lawsuit. Cops all with camera's = cops won't do anything to help anyone ever again.

The law might need to be changed to give the police more flexibility, but the people should be able to know the truth and form their own judgements. The police should not be able to work outside of the law

As for your opinion of the drug dealer and what he thought, unless you're a criminal, wanted, with previous convictions and I assume looking at a lengthy jail term, you don't know how he'd react.
That's right. but trying to outgun 23 machinegun wielding police officers with a single gun of my own (probably <23 bullets in the cartridge) .. well, I doubt thats the decision he made
 
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AFAIK the actual quote is theres no evidence its been fired, they are now sending it for tests, which suggests they haven't confirmed it, they just assume it based on something. Anyway, not fired doesn't mean not drawn, ot waved around and at that point, when police think he'll fire, then the police have every right to shoot.

I don't care either way, he did something stupid, a cop did something stupid, a cop might have tripped and fired as he did so, who knows, its got smeg all to do with stopping OTHER thieving scum burning down london.

If it was anger at the police, attack the police, not steal for yourselves. I could almost understand people who knew Duggan, and maybe more in the local area getting angry at the police, but they didn't directly attack the police, they went off to steal crap. its a poor excuse, the riots need to be dealt with, the IPCC seriously needs to STFU because they have no business stirring this crap up without a final report, at all and the riots need to be dealt with swiftly and hard.


A couple of days ago, people in here were certain that he had shot the police officer. Too many in here will believe one point but refuse to listen to any others.
 
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