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Lack of fathers root cause of violence
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That is just utter crap. And I was going to do it earlier, but I am now requiring you to provide sources for all the claims you have made regarding facts and figures. (that are not sponsored or funded by Christian organisations, individuals or think tanks).
Despite divorce rates rising? During the economic boom years and then dropping significantly during the economic crash?
Stop pushing your Christian agenda.
it's not marriage that's keeping them together though it's th commitment they decided to make to get married.
Those married vs non married couple are just different kinds of relationships and people.
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I have him on ignore for that same reason.
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Well stats are fine. Could it be argued that there are more people not married than married. So the chances of a split are higher?
Divorce is quick as you like nowadays with no stigma attached to it (as there once was). Only person who wins is a solicitor.
As for negatives in getting married. No, cant say I do have any. Its a choice nothing more. If you feel you need it, have at it. Just do not judge those who choose not to.
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So are you saying that non married couples show lack of commitment?
It's economics keeping them together. During the 80s boom years, divorces soared where they could afford to go through with the divorce. After the economic crash, divorce rates plummeted.
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=170
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Have a look here:
http://www.uknetguide.co.uk/Lifestyle_and_Leisure/Article/Rights_for_Unmarried_Couples-100230.html
The biggest worry in my mind is that if the child was born before 2003 the unmarried father has no parental responsibility rights. Quite a worry, never mind all the financial implications of not being married.
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So you choose not to show commitment to your girlfriend?
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It would have been acceptable.
That is a problem. Divorce should not be easy unless the circumstances demand a quick get out (violence, abuse and so on). A marriage is a serious commitment and people should be encouraged to work out problems rather than divorce especially if children are involved.
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Your right having children, living together and staying 100% faithful shows my lack of commitment.
Perhaps I could get married and start banging my PA, as long as I have a gold ring on my finger im in like flyn.
You should maybe read it properly, its not as black and white as you make it sound and only applies if a couple splits. If a couple stays together its all moot.
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That is fine but if one becomes disfunctional and abusive with in the family, then what? Shout up and put up for socity, or get rid of the abusive element in the family unit? Your family broke up, were you out rioting?
A Mother and Father living to getter as a family with children is the better option, but only if they are both good parents. If one is disfuctional then the whole family unit becomes disfuctional.
They had them alright, they were just keep in their place or shipped to the other side of the planet.
Am a single parent, there is a stable home environment, strong male role model and a loving environment. My parents must be married for 40+ years now, that didn't stop me or the bulk of the other children from being involved in rioting in 1970s and 80s Belfast. Rioting is fun, children are drawn to it like a moth to a flame. Up bring doesn't change a thing, if the kid are close by they will get involved.
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There are no downsides to you in getting married. There are several upsides.
You have stated that you choose not to show your commitment by getting married and yet can't give a logical reason for this.
If you got married and started having an affair with your PA you would be a cad - just a married cad. It is a separate matter altogether.
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Well apart from death and all that! The point is that if you have a child then they deserve the extra legal protection tha marriage provides. Nobody has a child (or gets married) assuming they are going to end up splitting up but when you chose to reproduce you should take the responsibility of making sure the child is as protected as possible.
You could just easily argue that the lack of discipline is down to mothers being shunted off back to work so soon after giving birth. Talking of 50yrs ago back then it was a mothers duty first and foremost to bring up the children, nowadays more often than not both parents are working due to financial necessity and the kids get shipped around from pillar to post without any stable environment.
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You seem to agree that a stable mother and father is the best option. There will always be exceptions.
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You seem to have some issues with marriage.
No, you're implying that not getting married shows a lack of committment which to be honest is damn right insulting and stinks of the holier than thou attitude typical of Christians.