Riots in Tottenham, London! (NO RACIST COMMENTS)

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Bigsmoke8 said:
I personally wasn't involved in the riots but I know many who were including family members...
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I honestly hope you're going to shop them.

If I knew anyone involved in these hideous acts - friend, family, acquaintance - I'd be straight on the phone to the police.

It wouldn't be a disloyalty, it's loyalty to the community, to the country, and to human decency.
 
Great point just made, "people seem to think they have the right to anything they want, and to live outside of their means"

If you want nice stuff do what the rest of us do and get a job!
 
shine said:
You would have got a better response had you explained yourself correctly or linked a source:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2005/oct/21/executivesalaries.executivepay

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/aug/13/unions-question-appointment-philip-green-spending

For balance it should be pointed out not everyone has such arrangements.
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Tax havens can be annoying to us normal folk, but as you say, few people have this sort of set up. Your average banker certainly doesn't.
 
OldCoals said:
There are lots of jobs out there, don't pretend otherwise.

40,000 listed on Jobsite alone.

http://www.jobsite.co.uk/
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40,000 jobs, how many are unemployed are there ?

Where I come from, there are 80 applicants per position for even the scummiest of jobs. That doesn't mean there are 80 jobs and 80 candidates that will filter through, that means for any job you have a 98.75% chance of rejection.
 
BunnyKillBot said:
40,000 jobs, how many are unemployed are there ?

Where I come from, there are 80 applicants per position for even the scummiest of jobs. That doesn't mean there are 80 jobs and 80 candidates that will filter through, that means for any job you have a 98.75% chance of rejection.
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My reply was to the statement, "What jobs."
 
OldCoals said:
There are lots of jobs out there, don't pretend otherwise.
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Im simply saying, just because there are jobs, doesn't mean people are any more willing to find them, a lot of people who got kicked out of jobs by Labours stupid ass plan to employ the entire nation, just don't see the point any more.

Of course there's a lot of pretentiousness and personal disappointment going about for people who have left UNI with diplomas only to find themselves in a McDonalds making people fat.

People want simple engineering jobs if they cant find the work they want, its a shame they were destroyed in the 70s
 
Notts Police getting pretty much everything right at the moment. Have been absolutely fantastic with their communication with the public.

People have been taking cakes and sandwiches to Stations apparently lol, I think the level of public support they have been shown has taken them slightly by surprise.

Police humbled by public support
Posted on 11th August 2011 12:11

Nottinghamshire Police has been ‘humbled’ by the overwhelming show of public support during the last two evenings, with applications to become Special Constables already arriving in the mail.

An estimated 10,000 messages of support for officers’ positive action against the recent disorder have flooded in through social networking sites Facebook and Twitter since Tuesday (9 August 2011).

The number of people following the force on Twitter has grown enormously since the beginning of the week. Around 2,000 followers have increased to more than 16,000, with thousands more following the specially set up hashtag #nottspolicelatest.

Head of Corporate Communications Matt Tapp said: "Due to the professionalism of the policing operation and the quality of the communication with members of the public, we find ourselves with a tremendous groundswell of support. It is truly humbling.

"We have demonstrated how social media can capture fast-time intelligence to prevent crime and garner huge public support from thousands of residents.

"This will revolutionise how we use communications to prevent and detect crime and gain and retain public confidence.

"Civil disobedience will stop but the momentum we have generated together in the last 48 hours must continue."

Social media accounts are being used by the force to communicate up-to-the-minute information about violent disorder in Nottingham to the public.

For a second night, staff used Twitter as the main channel of communication for distributing reassurance messages and responding to questions about the ongoing operation.

Also, fans of the force's Facebook page grew from 700 on Monday to almost 6,000 on Thursday. A group set up on Facebook at 6pm on Tuesday by an aspiring Special Constable in support of Nottinghamshire Police, had gained more than 12,000 followers by the start of Thursday.

The force hopes to harness this support by inviting others who wish to contribute to apply to become Special Constables. Human Resources have reported a flurry of applications hitting their desks in the last few days, with one former Special asking to be re-recruited immediately so he can help with the current police operation in the city.

Special Inspector Keiley Freeman has been a police volunteer for five years.
She said: “I initially joined the Specials to see what it would be like to be a police officer, but I have since found it’s a great way of giving back to my community; something that is especially pertinent after the week of trouble we have had.

“Being a Special is a varied, challenging and rewarding job and I wouldn’t give it up for the world.”

SI Freeman was one of 80 Specials helping response teams in the city overnight before returning to her ‘day job’ as a police research officer today.

As well as assisting police with tackling major incidents, Specials work in neighbourhood policing teams and help police events such as the Goose Fair.

Nottinghamshire Police currently recruit 350 Specials and SS Freeman said the more Specials the better. She said: “It will give us a bigger pool of people to work with and bolster our strength in dealing with serious incidents.”

Special Constable applicants must be aged 18 or above and undergo a selection process, including a security check, and a medical and fitness test.

Successful applicants receive training before starting on the job and are asked to work at least 16 hours per month.

A Special Constable recruitment event will take place at Ollerton Town Hall, in Sherwood Drive, Ollerton, on Saturday 20 August 2011.

To download an application pack or for more information about volunteering as a Special http://www.nottinghamshire.police.uk/jobs/special_constables/
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Source
 
Bigsmoke8 said:
I personally wasn't involved in the riots but I know many who were including family members and their was no racial motivation or care for Mark Duggan they just wanted to gain some free goods.
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What time are you going to the police station to give them your information?


LOAM, I want to echo what you said there. I've noticed Nottingham police being very forthright about issues in their area and demonstrating that they are deploying forces to tackle any suspected issues of crime. They are doing what the police should be doing, demonstrating to the public that they are trying to combat crime. Yes, they won't get it right all of the time but it is so important to demonstrate a willingness and keenness to do it. For that, they should be applauded.
 
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OldCoals said:
My reply was to the statement, "What jobs."
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Thats nice. And your comment on the 98.75% rejection rate?

What it means is that there are jobs for the top tier, most skilled 1.25% of the unemployed, for everybody else, there are no jobs, which was his point.

But don't worry, the governments forced worked programme is set to fix that problem. Benefits claimers forced to do 30 hours a week community service to retain their benefits, which is the equivalent of 1 third minimum wage. A brilliant, dirty, underhanded way to get around minimum wage.
 
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