Everyone’s move to Australia

I'm not saying it's not better but for goodness sake point out what it is the makes the place appealing..and if you cant do that without mentioning the weather then maybe....just maybe there is more research to be done.

The weather's a big part of it. It's not just that it's often a gorgeous day, but the kind of lifestyle that kind of climate allows - being outside with friends, drinking, eating, listening to music. The key difference, however, and unlike when you're visiting somewhere like Spain or the Caribbean, is how comfortably familiar everything is. Take away their rather American fascination with big trucks and the overly large fonts they use for everything (it's weird - you'll see shops named something like 'BEER & FOOD' in a massive four foot high stock font. It's like every shop is owned by Carpet World) and it's like being in a more relaxed UK.
 
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I lived there for 15 months. I know for a fact I couldnt live there for the rest of my life. I dont like the culture, the people or their backwards views on things. I wasnt sorry to see the back of that country. Beautiful country though.
A lot of people I know who emmigrate are under the impression that emmigration will instantly make their crap lives amazing.
 
Massive ping times combined with the draconian laws that would see you in prison for visiting 4chan puts Australia firmly off my list of countries to visit.
 
Been in Australia for just over a year and I love it here. Recently the flow of brits has slowed a bit due to the exchange rate. Quite a few have also taken this opportunity to head back to the UK.

The weather is amazing - it's winter right now and it's 19 degrees. Some days it's better here than London and it's summer over there!

Cost of living is higher but so are wages. A friend is doing pure temp work on a work holiday visa. She is just an admin/PA at a company and she is on $60000+ - that's £38k for a job with no skills.
 
Massive ping times combined with the draconian laws that would see you in prison for visiting 4chan puts Australia firmly off my list of countries to visit.

If your choice on going to Australia is based on the internet then Australia would probably be wasted on you TBH!
 
Cost of living is higher but so are wages. A friend is doing pure temp work on a work holiday visa. She is just an admin/PA at a company and she is on $60000+ - that's £38k for a job with no skills.

To be honest, if she's an experienced PA, those are similar wages as in the UK particularly for a temp. when you factor in the cost of living rise.
 
To be honest, if she's an experienced PA, those are similar wages as in the UK particularly for a temp. when you factor in the cost of living rise.

She's not experienced. She signed up with a temp agency and they put her there.

She could have been doing anything from general admin to reception work.
 
Been in Australia for just over a year and I love it here. Recently the flow of brits has slowed a bit due to the exchange rate. Quite a few have also taken this opportunity to head back to the UK.

The weather is amazing - it's winter right now and it's 19 degrees. Some days it's better here than London and it's summer over there!

Cost of living is higher but so are wages. A friend is doing pure temp work on a work holiday visa. She is just an admin/PA at a company and she is on $60000+ - that's £38k for a job with no skills.

So basically shes not doing any better there money wise than she would be doing in London because the cost of living is higher.

I worked with people who had no skills that were on $100k a year. Once you take out their rent, food, travel costs etc for the area we lived, it made you wonder why they bothered at all.
 
See I could not, with any certainty argue either way from personal experience but this thread is characteristic of all these types of threads... There is no substance!! - if it's better then articulate why it's better.

All I ever hear is

1) better weather

2) beeches

3) better lifestyle

4) better quality of life

but no one ever nails it down - I know I'm not alone as even Stewart Lee made the observation in his comedy vehicle program recently.

There is no definitive answer to "Why Australia?" because the question itself requires a subjective response. Different people have different reasons. But I'd say quality of life is pretty specific. Some people use this same reason for preferring the UK.

I'm an Australian who lived in the UK for nearly 6 years. Here's just a few of the reasons why I decided to go back home to Australia:

  • Bigger house, with more land, for a lot less than I'd pay in the UK
  • Cheaper private schools
  • Narrower gap between rich and poor
  • Egalitarian society
  • No class system
  • Better social mobility
  • Generous government support for working families
  • Superior quality of life
  • Wide open spaces
  • Planned cities
  • Huge public parks absolutely everywhere
  • Most infrastructure is new, clean, and in excellent condition
  • Great public healthcare service (comparable to the NHS in some ways; better in others)

Here's our house in the UK which we still own:

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2 bedrooms, one bathroom, less than 400sqm of land (more photos here,). It's worth about £90,000. We don't even have a driveway.

Here's our house in Australia:

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Four bedrooms, one bathroom, 864sqm of land, and an outdoor spa (more photos here and here). We bought it for about £95,000.

Britain has many great points, and there are some aspects of life in the UK that I will always miss. I enjoyed my time over there. The UK is so quaint and old fashioned, it's hard not to like the place. But on balance, Australia wins every time for me.

I'm not saying it's not better but for goodness sake point out what it is the makes the place appealing..and if you cant do that without mentioning the weather then maybe....just maybe there is more research to be done.

For a lot of people, the weather is a really big deal (Seasonal Affective Disorder, anyone?) Personally I love the UK climate and hate the Australian heat, but I think most would say the opposite.

Having said all of that, here's my advice for anyone considering a move Down Under: Australia is not for everyone. If you have no compelling reason to go... don't.

Write a list of the things you really want out of life. If you already have them in the UK (or you're already on the way to getting them) then why look elsewhere? Australia won't necessarily change your life for the better; it's not a magic wheel that spins straw into gold.

Like most places, Australia is a land of swings and roundabouts. You have to trade them off against each other. Some things are cheaper - a lot cheaper - than the UK. Other things are more expensive - a lot more expensive - than the UK. Find out what they are, and compare them. Try to estimate their impact on your family budget.

Consider your relationships with family and friends. Are you so close that you can't live without each other? Are you fairly independent? Could you cope effectively without your usual support network for months on end? Do you make friends easily, or are you happy to have "quality over quantity"?

Do you enjoy regular overseas holidays on the continent? Bear in mind that these will be almost unaffordable when you're flying from the southern hemisphere. Driving to Paris is great fun, but the Chunnel doesn't quite reach Australia. If you're the sort of person who would miss the benefits of proximity to Europe, think carefully before making a decision.

Above all, don't move to Australia "just to see what it's like". If that's your primary motivation, take a holiday instead - and make it a long one.
 
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So basically shes not doing any better there money wise than she would be doing in London because the cost of living is higher.

I worked with people who had no skills that were on $100k a year. Once you take out their rent, food, travel costs etc for the area we lived, it made you wonder why they bothered at all.

Pretty much, however despite the high living cost she is saving at a rate much much higher than she would in the UK. She is saving more and earning more interest on those savings (6.5%).
 
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Ozzie is great but my wife and I went one better, eh Evangelion? ;)

I will simply remind everyone that New Zealand is to Australia what Wales is to England.

:D :p
 
How did you guys cope with being an imigrant?

You're assuming now that most countries are as backwards and intolerant of immigrants as the UK is. You get amazing support structures in pretty much most countries to help the integration process along. I know a Peruvian that moved to Sweden with his girlfriend. Within 3 years both were fluent in Swedish (with help), bought a house (with a little help), started a business (with help) and is now very functional members of Swedish society. In England they'd probably still be speaking basic English, congregate in immigrant areas to get away from the judgmental Brits and working crap jobs.

I've only ever lived in Norway for a year and the help I was offered was almost mind blowing. Didn't need any help apart from Norwegian lessons which I've started a week after I moved there.

Then again, if you fear being in a minority, then immigration is probably not for you.
 
I have had no problems fitting in here, but its true that Aussie isnt for everyone.

Personally i found that i found i prefer the laid back lifestyle here. They say the NT stands for Not Today, Not Tomorrow, Not Tuesday and Not Thursday. Nearly perfect BBQ weather for 6 months a year.
Oh and no big spiders here. They dont live up here. Plenty of snakes and crocs though.
 
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