Jersey Police dealing with major incidend

Milkybk said:
Dirtydog has a valid point in my opinion, he's just expressing it in a rather crude way (which is bound to therefore generate heated responses).

I don't believe I've ever said anything racist etc. on these forums but I'd much rather have a million British people with jobs than immigrants, that's a perfectly fair and non-racist point of view. I think a country should look after its own before looking after others.

"Great" Britain died long ago. I despise living in this country and look forward to leaving it for good one day. I love our culture* and my city but I feel like this country is only going to get worse and worse. I don't think this is down to "foreigners" before people start pointing fingers at me. :rolleyes:

*Culture which has most died out, mainly due to my rather shocking generation.
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the only reason we are so prosperous, is because of other cultures and foreign people, mostly because we abused and exploited them for our own gains. We cant just shut the doors to the world, immigrants bring in a variety of skills, our country is such that the best person for the job should get it and not where they are from.
 
dirtydog said:
Send 'em all back, millions of jobs and homes freed up for the hard pressed Brits

Sounds excellent to me. I know the idea of running the country for the benefit of your OWN people is an ODD concept to many though.
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Hard pressed Brits? Why are they hard pressed?

Please don't say because the Poles are stealing their jobs :rolleyes:
 
What are you two talking about?

The A&E was on Jersey where stuff like this never happens, of course it's going to get overwhelmed by an incident like this and need to close. It's probably the equivalent of 100 people suddenly walking into an A&E in a major city.
 
slambo69 said:
the only reason we are so prosperous, is because of other cultures and foreign people, mostly because we abused and exploited them for our own gains. We cant just shut the doors to the world, immigrants bring in a variety of skills, our country is such that the best person for the job should get it and not where they are from.
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Sounds fine but in practice it has led to disastrous consequences for this country and indeed the whole developed world.

Manufacturing is cheaper in the developing world, their workers probably work harder (in slave conditions) and for a pittance compared to what we will or are able to work for. So we have de-industrialised on a grand scale and then we wonder why we all have massive unemployment and are struggling to grow, while we continue to live our old lifestyles with borrowed money, even though we can't afford to live that way any more.

Your policies have led to the ruin of the West, and will be the downfall of our societies.
 
Morgoth said:
What are you two talking about?

The A&E was on Jersey where stuff like this never happens, of course it's going to get overwhelmed by an incident like this and need to close. It's probably the equivalent of 100 people suddenly walking into an A&E in a major city.
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Dunno much about Jersey TBH, except that play.com is there :p
 
Morgoth said:
What are you two talking about?

The A&E was on Jersey where stuff like this never happens, of course it's going to get overwhelmed by an incident like this and need to close. It's probably the equivalent of 100 people suddenly walking into an A&E in a major city.
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And all of those 100 people actually having life threatening injuries - true emergencies. Not some kid with a tic tac stuck up their nose.
 
dirtydog said:
Couple it by abolishing most benefits, or reduce their duration to three months, after which you get nothing. This would slash the budget deficit which would also help the country get back on its feet.
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Yes well that is all well and good, but then you'd be infringing peoples human rights - like it or loathe it - so it's not going to happen. Don't get me wrong, I completely agree with you on this point.

Don't forget that the MILLIONS of immigrants put an ENORMOUS strain on the health service, housing, policing, public transport, everything. Without this burden our country would save a fortune.
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A large number also contribute to our health service, housing, policing, etc.
 
Morgoth said:
What are you two talking about?

The A&E was on Jersey where stuff like this never happens, of course it's going to get overwhelmed by an incident like this and need to close. It's probably the equivalent of 100 people suddenly walking into an A&E in a major city.
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But it opened up again pretty quick, not that we know if the people were dead at the scene or not but it would have been too extreme to close it when nobody was coming back. Pre-emptive sure, but they aren't going to turn down other emergencies.

http://www.channelonline.tv/channelonline/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=495690
 
platypus said:
Yes well that is all well and good, but then you'd be infringing peoples human rights - like it or loathe it - so it's not going to happen. Don't get me wrong, I completely agree with you on this point.
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I know it won't ever happen but it could if the will was there. The law could be changed so that human rights laws couldn't stop it. (Yes I like human rights, who doesn't, but the so-called 'human rights' laws WE have today have become ridiculous)

A large number also contribute to our health service, housing, policing, etc.
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Yes but how many are net contributors, that's the important issue. And no matter how much money an immigrant may pay in tax, that doesn't help ME if when I go to find a flat or house, they are all full of Poles. It has been a bonanza for buy-to-let landlords and keeping the housing ponzi scheme propped up but it has screwed over the rest of us who just want an affordable home.
 
Jesus, the killer was walking around stabbing HIMSELF in the chest after he had stabbed the other people.

What a psycho.
 
dirtydog said:
I know it won't ever happen but it could if the will was there. The law could be changed so that human rights laws couldn't stop it. (Yes I like human rights, who doesn't, but the so-called 'human rights' laws WE have today have become ridiculous)
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I'm not so sure it could happen, regardless of the will. But we can dream..

Yes but how many are net contributors, that's the important issue. And no matter how much money an immigrant may pay in tax, that doesn't help ME if when I go to find a flat or house, they are all full of Poles. It has been a bonanza for buy-to-let landlords and keeping the housing ponzi scheme propped up but it has screwed over the rest of us who just want an affordable home.
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I'll be honest I don't know how many are net contributors, but do you know how many aren't? Factually speaking rather than anecdotally of course.
 
FYI we only have a single Hospital in Jersey and incidents like this are rare. Combined with the fact it acts as point of contact for needle Exchange program and many people use it as a walk in GP office (wrongly, with a cold f.ex) it's no surprise they wanted to and did close it 'generally' in order to facilitate far more effective triage.

Any of the departments can call in a Major Incident and depending on what is known at the time will dictate what is communicated and what level of action is taken. The Hospital were probably notified of a major incident where at least 5 people had been stabbed, it would have not necessarily been known whether they were alive or not. 5 people in critical condition IS a push on the services locally, it's relatively unheard of.
 
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