Any thoughts on the Refurbished GPU's?

JButlerUK · 16 Aug 2011 at 00:46

Refurbed GPU's

Can save upto £100 on the GTX 580's

Add a waterblock and your laughing really but is it all worth it considering i will be using it a lot and overclocking it probably...

However bear in mind i will upgrade to the 28nm GPU's next year, is this a cost effective solution for a years time?

stulid · 16 Aug 2011 at 01:07

1 year warranty on something that costs £290 and is just the card only.

Fine if your going to water cool it immediately so void the warranty anyways.

wannabedamned · 16 Aug 2011 at 03:23

I've always been under the belief, if its going to break, its going to be within the first few months of use, So the cards are a good deal if you ask me.

TheYoungster · 16 Aug 2011 at 04:06

I might snatch up a bargain, 9800gtx will munch tf2 quite nice wont it? amongst other games i own, tf2 is my favourite

cmndr_andi · 16 Aug 2011 at 04:57

TheYoungster said:
I might snatch up a bargain, 9800gtx will munch tf2 quite nice wont it? amongst other games i own, tf2 is my favourite

It will handle it fine (mainly because it's a source game and doesn't need much), but please be aware that the 9800GTX+ is effectively a GTS 250 (G92 core). If you can, I would spend the extra £15 and go for the GTX 460 768MB. This is a much newer design (two generations newer) and a good deal faster (as well as being physically smaller and less power hungry).

JButlerUK · 16 Aug 2011 at 10:15

Would my warrenty be void with OcUK if i put a water block on it?

Cheers.

gareth170 · 16 Aug 2011 at 10:28

JButlerUK said:
Would my warrenty be void with OcUK if i put a water block on it?

Cheers.

yes.

ocuk allows overclocking, but not removing of cooler..

also tihis thread should be in graphic cards, not cpu's

Martini1991 · 16 Aug 2011 at 10:31

JButlerUK said:
Would my warrenty be void with OcUK if i put a water block on it?

Cheers.

Depends on manufacturers really.
Sapphire for example don't put stickers on the screws, removing it wouldn't void a warranty, in retrospect, XFX do, removal of the cooler would void warranty. It is no different in many peoples eyes to a CPU and motherboard.

Evga openly allow the removal of a cooler, assuming it hasn't been damaged.

gareth170 · 16 Aug 2011 at 10:34

Martini1991 said:
Depends on manufacturers really.
Sapphire for example don't put stickers on the screws, removing it wouldn't void a warranty, in retrospect, XFX do.

Evga openly allow the removal of a cooler, assuming it hasn't been damaged.

his asking about with ocuk.....

if he sends it back to the manufacturer then yeah maybe...

sapphire states they don't allow that, hence why i wouldn't say they would, even tho they maybe wouldn't know

Martini1991 · 16 Aug 2011 at 10:36

gareth170 said:
his asking about with ocuk.....

if he sends it back to the manufacturer then yeah maybe...

Why would OCUK's stance be any different? Sure, if they can see the "If removed warranty is void" stickers have been removed, then yes, the warranty would be void, as it would be void by the manufacturer also, but in cases where removal doesn't equate to a void warranty, OCUK's stance would be the same, that is warranty not void, unless obviously damaged, such as the PCB scraped etc, besides the fact they'd never be able to tell, nor do they check the cooler. It is no different to changing a CPU cooler on a motherboard.

JButlerUK · 16 Aug 2011 at 10:43

Coolio.

Might go for it

Martini1991 · 16 Aug 2011 at 10:46

JButlerUK said:
Coolio.

Might go for it

It really depends on what manufacturer they are.

gareth170 said:
sapphire states they don't allow that, hence why i wouldn't say they would, even tho they maybe wouldn't know

Sapphire don't try to prevent it with warranty stickers.
It's the same as overclocking, it's not allowed as such, but as long as you haven't damaged it through negligence then it's "Ask no questions". The same as OCUK with overclocking. If you damaged the CPU (Burn marks) through overclocking, you'd lose the warranty, if it has just died, but seems fine physically, it'd be "No questions asked".

I'm speaking from experience of RMA'ing a 6870 which I'd WC'ed, which then ceased functioning.

gareth170 · 16 Aug 2011 at 10:48

Martini1991 said:
Why would OCUK's stance be any different? Sure, if they can see the "If removed warranty is void" stickers have been removed, then yes, the warranty would be void, as it would be void by the manufacturer also, but in cases where removal doesn't equate to a void warranty, OCUK's stance would be the same, that is warranty not void, unless obviously damaged, such as the PCB scraped etc, besides the fact they'd never be able to tell, nor do they check the cooler. It is no different to changing a CPU cooler on a motherboard.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=18015669&postcount=627

No it won't void your warranty.

We allow our customers to overclock their cards as much as they wish, we are overclockers UK afterall.

The only way you will void your warranty is if you start removing the cooler or modifying the card in someway like soldering different resistors on it etc.

yet again more proof

Martini1991 · 16 Aug 2011 at 10:50

gareth170 said:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=18015669&postcount=627

It's still "No questions asked".
Every E-tailer is the same, they know it happens etc, they're insured, and they allow the RMA if things go pear shaped up.

And again, I said it's "No questions asked" with the cooler, as long as you haven't defaced the PCB etc, an RMA would go through fine.

Martini1991 · 16 Aug 2011 at 10:55

Gibbo's statement is true for the majority of manufacturers, it's dependant on the manufacturer, there is no blank "Yes/No" answer.

gareth170 · 16 Aug 2011 at 10:59

Martini1991 said:
It's still "No questions asked".
Every E-tailer is the same, they know it happens etc, they're insured, and they allow the RMA if things go pear shaped up.

And again, I said it's "No questions asked" with the cooler, as long as you haven't defaced the PCB etc, an RMA would go through fine.

i am here to give the true/right information.

i wouldn't tell people yeah it's fine, when it states its not.

maybe they wouldn't know but theres always a small risk of it back firing 1 time and that person will be mad at the person who said yeah it's fine.

Martini1991 · 16 Aug 2011 at 11:03

gareth170 said:
i am here to give the true/right information.

i wouldn't tell people yeah it's fine, when it states its not.

maybe they wouldn't know but theres always a small risk of it back fireing 1 time and that person will be mad at the person who said yeah it's fine.

I said it depends on the manufacturer, as not every manufacturer is the same.
I never came out and said "Yeah sure, it's fine". :confused:

gareth170 · 16 Aug 2011 at 11:11

Martini1991 said:
I said it depends on the manufacturer, as not every manufacturer is the same.
I never came out and said "Yeah sure, it's fine".

u said "Sapphire for example don't put stickers on the screws, removing it wouldn't void a warranty,"

which isn't totally true...

it doesn't matter if Sapphire don't try to prevent it , the true information is they don't allow it... it's up to him if he ignores that

has i said i am here to give the true/right information.

Martini1991 · 16 Aug 2011 at 11:16

GPU or ASIC device (VGA) is sensitive to thermal (heat) issue. The heat sink or fan is designed to meet the requirements for reliability of the product and the warranty is rendered invalid if the product is dismantled or the heat sink or cooler fan are removed as this may causes damage to the GPU or ASIC device . Non-compliance will cause the warranty of the product to be void and repair will be at the users cost.

That's from Sapphire.

It'd be impossible to tell if it was removed, and E-tailors don't remove the cooler anyway.
Bizarre policy from Sapphire, seeing as unlike some, they don't put stickers on.
However, point in question was Nvidia, Evga make reference Nvidia cards, guess who allow the removal openly? Evga, so it's still down to the manufacturer

No one batted an eye lid when my 6870 got RMA'ed, I'd even changed the thermal pads.

gareth170 · 16 Aug 2011 at 11:26

Martini1991 said:
GPU or ASIC device (VGA) is sensitive to thermal (heat) issue. The heat sink or fan is designed to meet the requirements for reliability of the product and the warranty is rendered invalid if the product is dismantled or the heat sink or cooler fan are removed as this may causes damage to the GPU or ASIC device . Non-compliance will cause the warranty of the product to be void and repair will be at the users cost.

That's from Sapphire.

It'd be impossible to tell if it was removed, and E-tailors don't remove the cooler anyway.
Bizarre policy from Sapphire, seeing as unlike some, they don't put stickers on.
However, point in question was Nvidia, Evga make reference Nvidia cards, guess who allow the removal openly? Evga, so it's still down to the manufacturer
No one batted an eye lid when my 6870 got RMA'ed, I'd even changed the thermal pads.

u really don't get it.....

well anyway the way i see it is for the people you've told that they won't know if the cooler been removed, if 1time the persons card fails a rma due to that u should buy that person/s a new card.