One law for the rich, anoher law for the poor.

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[The riots and looting] are just about lawless kids taking advantage of a situation to take what isn't theirs. And British society, Cameron tells us, abhors that kind of behaviour.

This is said in all seriousness. As if the massive bank bailouts never happened, followed by the defiant record bonuses. Followed by the emergency G8 and G20 meetings, when the leaders decided, collectively, not to do anything to punish the bankers for any of this, nor to do anything serious to prevent a similar crisis from happening again. Instead they would all go home to their respective countries and force sacrifices on the most vulnerable. They would do this by firing public sector workers, scapegoating teachers, closing libraries, upping tuition fees, rolling back union contracts, creating rush privatisations of public assets and decreasing pensions – mix the cocktail for where you live. And who is on television lecturing about the need to give up these "entitlements"? The bankers and hedge-fund managers, of course.
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Of course London's riots weren't a political protest. But the people committing night-time robbery sure as hell know that their elites have been committing daytime robbery. ... The Tories are right when they say the rioting is not about the cuts. But it has a great deal to do with what those cuts represent: being cut off. Locked away in a ballooning underclass with the few escape routes previously offered – a union job, a good affordable education – being rapidly sealed off. The cuts are a message. They are saying to whole sectors of society: you are stuck where you are, much like the migrants and refugees we turn away at our increasingly fortressed borders. (The Grauniad)
Our trusted and respected politicians will arrogantly tell us that nothing other than lawlessness prompted the riots and that the appropriate response to this condition is to treat the symptoms; send them all to prison for a long, long time; that should fix it :rolleyes:

I don't believe it. The rioting and looting were wrong and inexcusable. However, it had a cause, not a considered, political protest but an outpouring of rage at a society where the rich get richer and are bailed out when they screw up and the poor get poorer and pay the price of the Banker's greed, selfishness, total lack of responsibility and utter stupidity.

The government MUST identify the causes of the anger and frustration which led to the rioting and subsequent looting and resolve them; to do otherwise is just to postpone the inevitable repeat which will likely be still more violent.
 
One law for the rich, anoher law for the poor OMGZ

The solution is to become rich. :cool:


Real answer: there is no single cause, and in reality the actual problem will never be fixed (well, any time soon).
 
No, it was oppertunist and wanton violence and theft.

Nothing to do with bankers, or rich people or bonuses, just Scum behaving like Scum, pure and simple, and the solution is to round up and lock away every last one of them for the rest of their natural lives.
 
stockhausen said:
Our trusted and respected politicians will arrogantly tell us that nothing other than lawlessness prompted the riots and that the appropriate response to this condition is to treat the symptoms; send them all to prison for a long, long time; that should fix it
I wrote a long, well throught out and structured rebuttal to this statement, and indeed the entire OP, pointing out all it's misgivings, inadequacies and errors. I then deleted it and simply wrote...

lol stockhausen.
 
Dude you can't go blaming this all on the devide between rich and poor there are many faults with our political, Justice, economic etc... systems in this country that need a good looking into to be honest and you forget that the majority of those rioting aren't really trying to make a political point they're using politics to try and excuse their unwarrented selfish actions.
 
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Dude you can't go blaming this all on the devide between rich and poor there are many faults with our political, Justice, economic etc... systems in this country that need a good looking into to be honest and you forget that the majority of those rioting aren't really trying to make a political point they're using politics to try and excuse their unwarrented selfish actions.

Funny didn't Blair use politics to attack Iraq? :rolleyes:
 
No, the issues were the thousands starving every day. Having to work so hard just to put food on their table of course. There is nothing to riot about in all honesty and the fact that it was complete anarchy with little in the way of direction shows that it was simply ***** being *****.
 
Rich people always have different rules... because they make the rules.

Fascinatingly, in Aztec society those higher up the social ladder were treated more severely not less. For example, the punishment for public drunkenness for a member of the nobility was death, whereas the penalty for a random member of the public was to have their house demolished and their head shaved for the first offence, and death for the second.

The theory was that the nobility should be setting an example to the rest.
 
The solution is to become rich. :cool:

Yes and it can be achieved by hard work. A notion which is lost on a great number of people who believe it can all be had for free and blame their woes on everyone else but not themselves.
 
No, it was oppertunist and wanton violence and theft.

Nothing to do with bankers, or rich people or bonuses, just Scum behaving like Scum, pure and simple, and the solution is to round up and lock away every last one of them for the rest of their natural lives.

:rolleyes:
 
Sorry, I don't agree with one major point in the OP's quote - the reason why the country is in the mess we are in is because the government spent more than was coming in.

Bankers didn't help an already bad situation, but they are not the ones to take the blame for this (other things yes!)

Public sector layoffs are there because the government can't keep it's own house in order and spends time pointing fault at others (sometimes justly so) when they themselves are happy to go along with these bankers methods when times are good.
 
Fascinatingly, in Aztec society those higher up the social ladder were treated more severely not less. For example, the punishment for public drunkenness for a member of the nobility was death, whereas the penalty for a random member of the public was to have their house demolished and their head shaved for the first offence, and death for the second.

The theory was that the nobility should be setting an example to the rest.

Its a real shame we have devolved in society from something that existed several thousand years ago...:(
 
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