*Throws toys out of the pram*
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I don't own an iPhone but all my mates that do say that their phone has got a lot slower with iOS updates (3G/3GS owners of course).
Yes, they do run a bit slower but that is what happens with newer software on older hardware; it isn't a problem unique to iOS devices.
Yes I know, it's just that Raikiri stated bluntly that "The 3GS runs iOS 5"... However, I'm guessing it wouldn't run iOS 5 well, due to the reasons you pointed out.
It's obvious that the iPhone has less of a fragmentation issue, but it certainly isn't a "one OS fits all" scenario. At least that seemed to be what Raikiri was sort of implying (although he probably didn't mean it to such a full extent).
Things just got more interesting! Apple has filed an injunction to attempt to ban the sale of all Samsung Galaxy smartphones in the EU
(note: not just tablets anymore... the WHOLE KABOODLE)
Their lawyers must be on some crazy caffeine binge or something!
http://webwereld.nl/nieuws/107646/apple-wil-alle-galaxy-s-verbannen-uit-heel-europa.html
(sorry it's in dutch - also on cnet if you want secondary sauce)
(note: not just tablets anymore... the WHOLE KABOODLE)Their lawyers must be on some crazy caffeine binge or something!
http://webwereld.nl/nieuws/107646/apple-wil-alle-galaxy-s-verbannen-uit-heel-europa.html
(sorry it's in dutch - also on cnet if you want secondary sauce)
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I wouldn't say spot the irony per-say and I wouldn't even go as far as saying so says the Android fanboi but surely I'm not the only one who can see the bias in that post
Why is that a problem?
I love tech/electronics and a lot more than most of the people on this forum and it just so happens that android is one of my favourite areas, therefore I have a sig that I like a lot and the dark knight is one of my favourite films therefore I thought that was a perfect combination.
Also I have listed the points in the past that I don't like about android, which most android fanboys would probably disagree with as well and most of the people here have done so.
And all the things that I listed are pretty much what everyone dislikes about apple (the apple fanboys will obviously disagree strongly).
Again why do you think there are sooooo many **** takes of apple, which pretty much cover all the points that I listed?
Maybe if I had one with an apple symbol instead, you would think different, right?
Or if I really was a big fanboy of android and really HATED everything to do with apple, I would have one of the many android VS apple pics where it involves an android bot cutting apple in half or something.
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To above post.
That is another thing I really dislike about the apple company, sue for everything, try to block sales of other mobiles/tablets and have succeeded for a couple of things now as well.
Are they just so scared because of the amount of samsung galaxy mobiles being sold, the amount of android handsets being sold in the world whilst there sales decrease each day?
Can't keep up any more with the competition that is getting much better every time a new release comes out?
Or are they just that sad and pathetic, that they don't want any competition at all?
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This is exactly why every single android handset manufacturer company with google backing them up should just sue apple for anything/everything.
No way apple could get out of that then. And they wouldn't be able to afford it when combined against all the companies some of which are already much bigger and worth a lot more than apple on their own.
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Apple at it again with shrinking images:
http://www.computerworlduk.com/news...es-inaccurate-evidence-in-dutch-samsung-case/
This is truning into a pantomime.
http://www.computerworlduk.com/news...es-inaccurate-evidence-in-dutch-samsung-case/
This is truning into a pantomime.
LOL
That is just low, even for apple, wait, maybe not..............
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Really does just show, how desperate they are to stop android from increasing even more than what it already is.
Did they honestly think that they would get away with that? Spending 5 min in photoshop and decreasing the size of the GS to make it exactly the same as the iphone.
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As said by someone else "tampering with evidence".
Surely they should get into big trouble now!
That is just low, even for apple, wait, maybe not..............
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Really does just show, how desperate they are to stop android from increasing even more than what it already is.
Did they honestly think that they would get away with that? Spending 5 min in photoshop and decreasing the size of the GS to make it exactly the same as the iphone.
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As said by someone else "tampering with evidence".
Surely they should get into big trouble now!
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Of course they could get out of it, the law is the law. Apple are just using (abusing
) that to try and hamper the other companies. If the Android phone manufacturers had anything they could use against Apple, they would have done it a long time ago.They're arguing about the design of it, not so much the size, so perhaps they are allowed to do that to images to demonstrate a point? Surely Samsung's lawyers would just laugh and have it thrown out immediately if they can't do that, why haven't they? Do we assume they are stupid?
The only thing you can draw from all this is one of two things, Apple have some kind of legally good case, or the laws around this are a farce.
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Yes but the HTC HD2 was released 5 months after the 3GS, and it still had a considerably less powerful GPU by the way.
So I stand by you being crazy
Considering the 3GS, along with the Palm Pre were a good deal more powerful than anything else on the market at the time (and released in same window), I don't see how you can claim it as poor tech while keeping a straight face.I mean come on, HTC and Samsung were still releasing ARM 11/Adreno 130 phones in June 2009. So if the 3GS was dated, then what do you call the competition that was still releasing with previous gen chips?
Sorry, your first part just reminded me of this
Awesome film!
Oh I certainly know that they are! How about it looking the same as all of their mobiles?
Plus there have been mobiles before the first iphone, which have looked the same as it, so no idea why apple even have the right to sue for that.
The thing is though, that is just so stupid, how can you make it look any different unless you make some ridiculous shape like a circle, which no one would buy then.
Well either way they are manipulating the image, which will then make the parties who are viewing it more likely to perceive it as being exactly the same, I also seen the one that apple supplied for the galaxy tab, which is even more of a joke, the galaxy tab looks completely different to that.
Yeah I thought that too, but I can't see that being the reason, no different to someone taking a knife as a piece of evidence that was used to kill someone and just shrinking the size of it saying "this was the weapon used to commit the murder except it was a bit bigger originally" (a completely different case and a bit stupid I know, but just to point out it is kind of the same thing and is just stupid in the end).
What ever evidence is provided should not be altered in any way no matter what the case is IMO.
I vote that the judge and every one else in the court room (apart from Samsung) are just big apple fanboys!
Only way to explain how apple are getting these stupid cases to even go to court and win some!
Awesome film!
Oh I certainly know that they are! How about it looking the same as all of their mobiles?
Plus there have been mobiles before the first iphone, which have looked the same as it, so no idea why apple even have the right to sue for that.
The thing is though, that is just so stupid, how can you make it look any different unless you make some ridiculous shape like a circle, which no one would buy then.
Well either way they are manipulating the image, which will then make the parties who are viewing it more likely to perceive it as being exactly the same, I also seen the one that apple supplied for the galaxy tab, which is even more of a joke, the galaxy tab looks completely different to that.
Yeah I thought that too, but I can't see that being the reason, no different to someone taking a knife as a piece of evidence that was used to kill someone and just shrinking the size of it saying "this was the weapon used to commit the murder except it was a bit bigger originally" (a completely different case and a bit stupid I know, but just to point out it is kind of the same thing and is just stupid in the end).
What ever evidence is provided should not be altered in any way no matter what the case is IMO.
I vote that the judge and every one else in the court room (apart from Samsung) are just big apple fanboys!
Only way to explain how apple are getting these stupid cases to even go to court and win some!
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Clearly Apple just have a superior legal team and a fairly solid case, manipulated images or not. They must be allowed to do it in order to demonstrate their point, otherwise it wouldn't hold up.
Aaaaaanyway, you're never going to concede to any positive points about Apple so I'm not going to spend ages addressing your points (however incorrect and biased I believe many of them to be), if you're happy hating them, then so be it.
Aaaaaanyway, you're never going to concede to any positive points about Apple so I'm not going to spend ages addressing your points (however incorrect and biased I believe many of them to be), if you're happy hating them, then so be it.
I'm going to guess you're not too familiar with the SCO case against Linux from the past few years? Lawyers will try and pull all kinds of crazy, stupid **** to make their case seem stronger.
Indeed, the only way they would ever win any of these daft cases or getting them to court in the first place!
But still, I stand by my point, no one should be allowed to alter evidence in the first place no matter how similar, different etc. it is. And I honestly can't see how that is allowed.
Have we by any chance got a lawyer on the forum?
As I said before I don't mind the products to much and shock horror, I actually think the ipad 2 is pretty good and competitively priced
compared to pretty much most of the android tablets available but I prefer the galaxy 10.1 tablet due to it being android.
It is just simply the way the company works and does certain things that I do not like one bit and most of its followers attitudes. And as said many times before, many people who don't like apple either express the same thoughts as me and why are there so many **** takes of just apple out there addressing the same points I made? Where as with nearly every other company there is hardly any compared to apple.
Plus I have said before that the iphone apps are better than the android ones as in the UI is more consistent throughout, more polished and not as buggy and of course the app market is better for now and the update system is much better but then again they only have a few devices that need to be updated compared to android.
But still, I stand by my point, no one should be allowed to alter evidence in the first place no matter how similar, different etc. it is. And I honestly can't see how that is allowed.
Have we by any chance got a lawyer on the forum?
As I said before I don't mind the products to much and shock horror, I actually think the ipad 2 is pretty good and competitively priced
compared to pretty much most of the android tablets available but I prefer the galaxy 10.1 tablet due to it being android.It is just simply the way the company works and does certain things that I do not like one bit and most of its followers attitudes. And as said many times before, many people who don't like apple either express the same thoughts as me and why are there so many **** takes of just apple out there addressing the same points I made? Where as with nearly every other company there is hardly any compared to apple.
Plus I have said before that the iphone apps are better than the android ones as in the UI is more consistent throughout, more polished and not as buggy and of course the app market is better for now and the update system is much better but then again they only have a few devices that need to be updated compared to android.
The thing is though, most of it's followers don't have an 'attitude', that is just a perception of a minority that are tossers. There are Android users that behave the same way.
There are some lawyers on the forum, I might ask in GD (though it won't end well).
There are some lawyers on the forum, I might ask in GD (though it won't end well
).Yes, there are also an awful lot of android users that do behave in the same way (but I still think there are a lot more for apple though), but then again it is the same for everything, cars, GPUs (the worst ), CPUs etc.
But it is just something about the apple users that do behave terribly that I know, have seen on many forums etc. that is really a lot more annoying than the android users and other fanboys of other things.
They just come across as real smug asses, like the time mrk linked us to the mac forum where some guy posted about moving from iphone 4 to GS 2 and saying he can't see what the big deal is about apple products etc. and most of them who posted in that thread are the perfect example as to why I stay well away from the apple crowd like that and one of the reasons why I hate the company.
The main thing being the arguments that some use, which really are just stupid, the reason the iphone 4 is the same price or dearer than the GS 2 "is cause it is made out of aluminium, feels like a quality product unlike that cheap piece of xxxx, it just works out of the box" and things like "do you have a mobile, no I have an iphone", "if you don't have an iphone, you don't have an iphone" etc. etc.
Yet the android guys were stating facts as to why the GS 2 is the better mobile and why the iphone 4 should be reduced in price, like the GS 2 has a dual core CPU, 1080P recording, the internal storage, RAM etc. etc. yet they just get flamed by pointless stupid remarks like the above.
And then the time that guy on neowin forums posted about an acer laptop compared to a macbook and a lot of other forums with similar things.
Hmm, that is a great idea, it ended well last time! Will get some popcorn ready!
Wonder when it will get locked this time
), CPUs etc.But it is just something about the apple users that do behave terribly that I know, have seen on many forums etc. that is really a lot more annoying than the android users and other fanboys of other things.
They just come across as real smug asses, like the time mrk linked us to the mac forum where some guy posted about moving from iphone 4 to GS 2 and saying he can't see what the big deal is about apple products etc. and most of them who posted in that thread are the perfect example as to why I stay well away from the apple crowd like that and one of the reasons why I hate the company.
The main thing being the arguments that some use, which really are just stupid, the reason the iphone 4 is the same price or dearer than the GS 2 "is cause it is made out of aluminium, feels like a quality product unlike that cheap piece of xxxx, it just works out of the box" and things like "do you have a mobile, no I have an iphone", "if you don't have an iphone, you don't have an iphone" etc. etc.
Yet the android guys were stating facts as to why the GS 2 is the better mobile and why the iphone 4 should be reduced in price, like the GS 2 has a dual core CPU, 1080P recording, the internal storage, RAM etc. etc. yet they just get flamed by pointless stupid remarks like the above.
And then the time that guy on neowin forums posted about an acer laptop compared to a macbook and a lot of other forums with similar things.
Hmm, that is a great idea, it ended well last time! Will get some popcorn ready!
Wonder when it will get locked this time
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Yes but the HTC HD2 was released 5 months after the 3GS, and it still had a considerably less powerful GPU by the way.
So I stand by you being crazy
That's still a matter of opinion really. The HD2 blows it out of the water, yes, it was a few months after, but I still say the HD from months before wasn't far off either.
Lets see when the iPhone 5 specs are released. I'll bet it wont be better than something else already on the market.
Andy I thought that at first, however I think since apple have seen how good the GS 2 is and how many new mobiles are coming out in the next few months that will be even better like the SE and the next nexus mobile etc. and then new tech coming out for android and considering apple only release a new mobile every year or so, they have had to go back to the drawing board and add something better/different now and that is why there is still no iphone 5 yet, let alone it hasn't even been mentioned as to when it is coming out.
Android/mobiles are just moving so fast in regards to the tech at the minute.
Android/mobiles are just moving so fast in regards to the tech at the minute.
Most people slating the Galaxy S II recently were HTC fanboys, not iPhone owners (they slated both ). The Galaxy S II hardware is certainly better overall but hardware is only half the story for most people, or perhaps even less than half.
Perhaps not, but it will still be plenty good enough. Most people aren't interested in benchmarks or something taking 0.001 second longer to open on their phone
). The Galaxy S II hardware is certainly better overall but hardware is only half the story for most people, or perhaps even less than half.Perhaps not, but it will still be plenty good enough. Most people aren't interested in benchmarks or something taking 0.001 second longer to open on their phone
You could be right actually. Apple realise they really have to raise their game, as 3 months later Samsung or HTC will surpass whatever they produce.
Tbh, I don't know if they should bother. Most iPhone users wouldn't know what specs their phones are...