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AMD cpus and their low heat threshold ?

Below is posted in another forum!

Your service request : SR #{ticketno:[8200435116]} has been reviewed and updated.

Response and Service Request History:

Thank you for contacting AMD. The core temperature is the correct temperatures. For your processor the safe temperature is 62 C. There are so many applications for processor temperature monitor and may not be accurate. We recommend Core Temp software to monitor the temperature of your cores. Its a free utility online. If your core's are running at 61.6 or 62 C, then they are running hot and you may have a defective processor.

In order to update this service request, please respond, leaving the service request reference intact.

Best regards,

Francine

AMD Global Customer Care

And another reply from AMD


Concerning your question regarding the temperatures with your processor. (1090) the maximum temperature threshold is 62 Celsius which set for the internal die (core) temperature of the chip. The core temperatures have an equational offset to determine temperature which equalizes at about 45 Celsius thus giving you more accurate readings at peak temperatures. The hindrance in this is the sub ambient idle temperature readings you speak of.

The silicon and adhesives used in manufacturing these processors has a peak temperature rating of 97+ Celsius before any form of degradation will take place. The processor also has a thermal shut off safe guard in place that shuts the processor down at 90 Celsius.

The Cpu temperature is read form a sensor embedded within the socket of your motherboard causing about a 7-10 Celsius variance form the actual Cpu temperature, which may be what you are reading about on the net.

You can use an application called AMD overdrive, that will allow you to monitor your temperatures accurately.

As long as your core temperature has not exceeded the high side of the 60 degree mark for extended periods of time you should be ok. 62 degrees holds a generous safety net to begin with.

I hope I was able to answer your questions, If you have any more inquiries don't hesitate to contact us.


Thank You

Alex Cromwell
Senior Technology Director
Advanced Micro Devices
Fort Collins, Colorado
2950 East Harmony Road
Suite 300
Fort Collins, CO
80528-9558

My core according to Core Temp are running idle around the 20c mark! According to the ASUS monitoring prog the CPU is running at 32c.

I'll go with what AMD say concerning the high safe temp for the cores!
 
Below is posted in another forum!



My core according to Core Temp are running idle around the 20c mark! According to the ASUS monitoring prog the CPU is running at 32c.

I'll go with what AMD say concerning the high safe temp for the cores!

That's a massive load of balls. Thubans were reporting UNDER ambient.
Hell, a guy in this thread has a Thuban reporting a stupidly low number, which invalidates the claim of "Amd's fixed it".
AMD's AOD can detect the correct CPU temp.
 
That's a massive load of balls. Thubans were reporting UNDER ambient.
Hell, a guy in this thread has a Thuban reporting a stupidly low number, which invalidates the claim of "Amd's fixed it".

Can you show me somewhere on the net that proves this, so I know for myself what temp my cores are at..

Thanks
 
Can you show me somewhere on the net that proves this, so I know for myself what temp my cores are at..

Thanks

You'll never know what your core temps are, because AMD simply don't have an accurate sensor for it.

I've had a Thuban which reported below ambient, someone here reckons his thuban idles under 20c lol.
 
Below is posted in another forum!



And another reply from AMD



My core according to Core Temp are running idle around the 20c mark! According to the ASUS monitoring prog the CPU is running at 32c.

I'll go with what AMD say concerning the high safe temp for the cores!

amd was giving u crap info
Dear Gareth,

Your service request : SR #{ticketno:[8200240100]} has been reviewed and updated.

Response and Service Request History:

Correct, as long as you are within the voltage and temperature guidelines you are ok. The temperature that should be monitored is the overall CPU temperature, not the core temp.


In order to update this service request, please respond, leaving the service request reference intact.

Best regards,

Jesse

AMD Global Customer Care
 
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You'll never know what your core temps are, because AMD simply don't have an accurate sensor for it.

I've had a Thuban which reported below ambient, someone here reckons his thuban idles under 20c lol.

I'm not going to doubt you, I just prefer to read up on the tests that have taken place to prove it!!
 
So you are saying this guy

Alex Cromwell
Senior Technology Director
Advanced Micro Devices
Fort Collins, Colorado
2950 East Harmony Road
Suite 300
Fort Collins, CO

Was giving crap info? A senior tech director!!!

Yeah ok mate!!
yes..

if its a accurate sensor it wouldn't be idling below ambient

also CS wouldn't be saying The temperature that should be monitored is the overall CPU temperature, not the core temp.
 
So you are saying this guy

Alex Cromwell
Senior Technology Director
Advanced Micro Devices
Fort Collins, Colorado
2950 East Harmony Road
Suite 300
Fort Collins, CO

Was giving crap info? A senior tech director!!!

Yeah ok mate!!
Test it yourself.
Get a Thuban, run core temp.
 
So you are saying this guy

Alex Cromwell
Senior Technology Director
Advanced Micro Devices
Fort Collins, Colorado
2950 East Harmony Road
Suite 300
Fort Collins, CO

Was giving crap info? A senior tech director!!!

Yeah ok mate!!

Where as you think AMD CPUs run so cool they actually run cooler than the ambient temperature by quite a margin? In fact in all likelyhood you're telling me my AMD CPU is running hotter when turned off (thus presumably at ambient) then when turned on?

Yeah ok mate!!
 
If you read the actual forum it explains that supposedly the Core sensor reads accurate as it heats up and isnt calibrated at lower temps, this response was given a load of times by AMD engineers and techs, but still I dont believe this 100 percent (or even 50% :)) as heard this tale flip flopped so many times so I just go off the socket temp also to be safe, as the below ambient on air temperatures dont fill me full of confidence.
 
I have never said I think anything of the sort!!

All i have asked for is some results, using professional testing equipment to allow me to make my mind up!!

Again I will stick with what AMD state the core should be safe at!!
 
I have never said I think anything of the sort!!

All i have asked for is some results, using professional testing equipment to allow me to make my mind up!!

Again I will stick with what AMD state the core should be safe at!!

But it's wrong, and we're explaining why it's wrong...
Professional testing equipment? We're telling you the facts.
 
But still, if the core temp reports lower than the socket temp, it's not normal is it?

Depends how much cooling the Socket gets from the heatsink or where the sensor actually is or in some cases it could in theory be possible. As the CPU has some form of active cooling while the socket doesnt.
Not that I'm saying thats the case though just saying that could possibly happen.
 
No far from it, all I know is it doesn't burn me when I touch it so alls fine despite the black smoke :) But I do think AMD should stop putting out conflicting statements, cant be that hard to all sing from the same sheet.
 
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every motherboard i've had give the same cpu temp results with the same cpu and the core temp readings are always a lot lower than cpu temp even under load.

38c core temp under fully load @ 4ghz 1.425v is no way right... cpu temp gives around 49-50c
 
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every motherboard i've had give the same cpu temp results with the same cpu and the core temp readings are always a lot lower than cpu temp even under load.

38c core temp under fully load @ 4ghz 1.425v is no way right... cpu temp gives around 49-50c

On air :p
I only maxed 59c at 4375MHZ at 1.55v on water.
 
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