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Hey just joined the forum, been reading and searching and seen mixed views.

I have been looking at the supersaurus or the spinosaur.

If I got the spinosaur I'd add the GTX460, ssd, and 8GB RAM.

Just wondering which has the better Mobo, the one in the supersaurus sounds good as it says the exact model, I'm guessing a z68 is better than a p67? However the spinosaur doesn't say the model.

What do you guys recommend?

Cheers
Ross
 
would you be happy to build your own computer?

its almost impossible to go wrong, especially with help from these forums, and will save you a lot of money (labour is usually 10-30% of the cost of a prebuilt PC)
 
supersaurus has a good SSD, 8GB, a good motherboard, decent PSU and case. That'd be my choice. Although my advice would be 'build it yourself'.

You don't need a Z68 really. It's an Intel motherboard, which will be adequate, but the GD53 is a known quantity.

I'm gonna post this again.





With pre-assembled, you loose about 10-15%. Fair enough, but you can get...

YOUR BASKET
1 x Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 6950 "Dual Fan Edition" 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with FREE DIRT3 Game £199.99
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £172.99
1 x Asus P8Z68-V Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £131.99
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 64GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive £82.99
1 x Cooler Master CM-690 II Lite Dominator Case - Black £66.98
1 x OCZ ZS Series 650W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £62.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £47.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST3500413AS) £30.98
1 x LG GH22NS70 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
Total : £838.02 (includes shipping : £20.10).




For a grand, you can get a 580

YOUR BASKET
1 x KFA2 GeForce GTX 580 1536MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £349.99
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £172.99
1 x Asus P8Z68-V Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £131.99
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 64GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive £82.99
1 x Cooler Master CM-690 II Lite Dominator Case - Black £66.98
1 x OCZ ZS Series 650W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £62.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £47.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST3500413AS) £30.98
1 x LG GH22NS70 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
Total : £988.02 (includes shipping : £20.10).



with a bit of room left for shiny stuff (case, 1TB HD, cooler, SLI PSU...).
 
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Thanks guys, I could build my own I never have but helped a mate with his build and work with Computer hardware. Just lazy I guess lol

I'll def have a good think now though, self build or supersaurus.

I think cable management put me off the most.

One more question is it easy to install a H60 and is it worth it over a CPU fan?

Edit* oh and overclocking? I see you can get the p67 with memory and CPU cooler at the 4.5 overclock, is this a good package?

Thank you for the build examples too they are great!

Cheers :)
Ross
 
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The amount of satisfaction you get from building your first PC is unsurpassed in my opinion. I bet 90% of the guys on here have done this through trial and error, being hobbyists.
There's pretty much nothing can really go wrong provided you take your time and follow precautions like grounding yourself.

Cable management in my opinion is one of the most satisfying parts of a build, i spend hours tidying up my cables and making sure everything looks good, might just be OCD though haha.

H60's aren't really advised for a first build, although there easy to install one slip up can cause a system full of wet components, i'd stick with air just now till you get a feel for what system building is like. Also the bundles tend to have somewhat of a markup on them and your limiting your choice of exactly what components are included/can be upgraded. Take your time and do research into whats compatible with what and the bundle will turn out a whole lot better with a smaller price tag.
 
Those videos are great. They pretty much nail everything you need to know about building a solid rig. And getting help is always useful.

I think cable management put me off the most.

With a good case, there's nothing to it really. Route all your cables behind the motherboard tray, and tidy it up with cable ties at the back when you get a good looking setup. One major issue is non-modular PSUs in that department. Hiding those unwanted cables can be a bit tricky.

One more question is it easy to install a H60 and is it worth it over a CPU fan?
I have a H50, and the H60 looks easier, probably easier than strapping a big hunk of metal to a motherboard. I don't think there are any danger in getting a water cooler, unless you go full retard and yank it around. Then again, air coolers are great as well, and some very quiet, some quieter than those water cooling pumps anyway.

Edit* oh and overclocking? I see you can get the p67 with memory and CPU cooler at the 4.5 overclock, is this a good package?
I suppose. Then again, doing it yourself will be cheaper and not very difficult to get to a decent overclock (30% extra clock speed) with SB. There are plenty of tutorials and discussions about this, and I would prefer to do it myself so I get more control over what voltages to put through the CPU. My guess is, that bundle will put at least 1.35V through the CPU, but some chips can go much lower for that speed.

Secondly, you can get a stock 2500K, then get a CPU cooler later (H60 or whatever), and overclock in your own time. I think it's the best way, you save around £30-£50 on the build to get a better GPU and whatnot, and nothing really stress a 2500K stock anyway.

Thank you for the build examples too they are great!

Cheers :)
Ross

Thanks. Get a fixed budget, don't skimp on components (PSU especially), and take your time deciding what you want :) Stu will probably spec you a kick ass machine.
 
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Well here's what I've spec'd, price is £40 more than the Supersarus and without the H60. This is because I chose a Blu-Ray, and I went with Modular PSU, (is that a smart option?). Oh and I had to chuck in Windows 7.

Still deciding whether to go for it.

MSI GeForce GTX 560Ti OC Twin FrozR II 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £184.79

Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £172.99

MSI P67A-GD53 Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard ** B3 REVISION ** £107.99

Cooler Master Silent Pro Modular 700W Power Supply £92.99

Crucial RealSSD M4 64GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive £82.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-00599) £79.99

Cooler Master CM-690 II Lite Dominator Case - Black £66.98

Samsung SH-B123L/BSBP 12x BluRay ROM / 16x DVD±RW Lightscribe SATA-II Optical Drive - Black (OEM) £49.99

Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £47.99

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (WD5000AAKX) £30.98

Gelid Tranquillo CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940/AM2/AM2+/AM3/LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366) £25.99

Asus Xonar DG 5.1 PCI Sound Card with built in Headphone Amp £25.99

Total: £986.17
 
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