Photoshopped? need pro opinions

Pretty sure I've seen that fish before and not in that photo... I'm like 99% sure I've photoshopped the same fish into an image for someone else a couple of years back.

The white halo front lower jaw is a dead give away anyhow.
 
Thinking its real , look at the situation , what would a guy be holding that is pulling his t-shirt down next to a fishing pond with a tackle bag on the floor, he would have to be holding somthing of equal size as I think its clear to say the tshirt is definetly not edited, you have to ask yourself what could have been there before this fish, im pretty sure this photo is genuine.
 
As pointed out by peterattheboro the halo effect around the lower jaw:

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is very unusual for image compression - normally you'd get the inverse happen and an average between the 2 sides of the transition - it is however a common artifact of poor masking... coupled with a higher level of compression noise around the fish compared to other edges in the image I'd say its a good bet its shopped.
 
It's real, the shadows are far too accurate for it to be a photoshop.

The shadows from his fingers on the fish, the shadows from its fin on him and his mate.

A 31lb pike is big, but not worth the effort photoshopping.
 
As pointed out by peterattheboro the halo effect around the lower jaw:

halo1.jpg


is very unusual for image compression - normally you'd get the inverse happen and an average between the 2 sides of the transition - it is however a common artifact of poor masking... coupled with a higher level of compression noise around the fish compared to other edges in the image I'd say its a good bet its shopped.

But you get that around his watch/bracelet too.
 
I believe it is fake. I caught a lot of Pike in my youth and the simple fact is that he is just too clean.

Where was it taken? It looks like it is an enclosed area of water, which is clearly mad-made.

Pike just don't grow that big in places like that.
 
It's real, the shadows are far too accurate for it to be a photoshop.

The shadows from his fingers on the fish, the shadows from its fin on him and his mate.

A 31lb pike is big, but not worth the effort photoshopping.

But you get that around his watch/bracelet too.

I could reproduce the shadows that accurately - a bit of work but possible - so I wouldn't say they were too accurate.

I've put more effort into photoshopping less before so I wouldn't go by that either - tho granted theres more effort put into it than average.

Around the watch/bracelet and other areas showing halos like that have bright parts near enough that can influence the compression algorithm tho, the jaw does not.
 
TBH there's a simple solution.... Fishing forums shou dhvae a rule stating any photos have to come with their accompanying raw file... That way it's a lot harder to 'shop anything. ;)

I think the problem with the photo in the OP is that it was shot around midday so it will always look stark and fake, they always do, which is why most photographers don't shoot then. That combined with a small image (which may well have been a bit overshrapened at some point) is a recipie for disaster...

I think the shadow under the fish is fine, the guy is leaning back with the fish and the angle of the light would mean (alongside his slightly curved body) you'd end up with a line a bit like that. The bright spot on the fishs' head is a bit odd, but I can only assume that's either due to the specific angle of the sun to the shooter or the use of flash that may have filled some of the shadows a little (there does seem to be some evidence of this) reflecting preferentially off the shiny fish.
 
As pointed out by peterattheboro the halo effect around the lower jaw:

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is very unusual for image compression - normally you'd get the inverse happen and an average between the 2 sides of the transition - it is however a common artifact of poor masking... coupled with a higher level of compression noise around the fish compared to other edges in the image I'd say its a good bet its shopped.


Also, as someone mentioned above, it could well be chromatic aberration. Especially with a compact. I've seen fringing just like that many times.


I've spent thousands of hours in PS and my money's on genuine. I might well be wrong though!. All of the catchlights seem to fit, shadows seem reasonable etc.
 
Also, as someone mentioned above, it could well be chromatic aberration. Especially with a compact. I've seen fringing just like that many times.

Possible, theres some symptoms of it on the neck line of his t-shirt but all other instances of in in the image are fairly consistant with each other whereas that one doesn't really match - granted there is no rule that they have to be uniform.
 
The guy holding the fish has a clean and dry t-shirt on, that would be very unlikely with a live fix of that size (and tricky even with a dead one) being held like that.
 
Looks shopped to me, looks like its standing out a bit, the white tiles on his left look slightly darker where an arm may have been, and who goes fishing in nice clothes??

(not that I like fishing, slight fish phobia)
 
The artefacts people have pointed could easily be caused by compression and size reduction. When you reduce a photo in Photoshop using 'bicubic sharper' it adds a slight light coloured outline, sort of a glow, to objects. Therefore doesn't look Photoshop'ed to me at all, I'd be very surprised if it was.
 
Am I the only one to think the lighting is SOOOOOO off.

Look at the face of the fish. The sun seems to be coming from top left, around 45 deg, from the photographer. On looking at the face of the guy in front, , the sun seems to be coming from the middle/right of the photographer. If that was the case, there would be a bit of light on the rest of the fish.

As a photographer, the lighting and shadows look consistent on all the subjects.

Also, the guy holding the fish, where is his right hand :confused::confused:

Holding the fish by the gills which is how you hold a fish with nasty teeth.

Last thing, he is holding the fish, I assume it is a bit slippery so he needs to grab it well. Yet there seems to be no preassure marks (where the skin goes in) on his finger. It seems like the fish is rock hard, which it ain't.

Defo fake.

Actually if you look you can see that his fingers are denting the fish, however, a pike it pure muscle and a mean fish.



EDIT: Another bad shadow. Look at the bottom of the fish, now look at the shadow casted on the guy's shirt. The fish's bottom is a bit circular, yet the shadow on the t-shirt is straight. This does, once again, prove my opening point, where I said that the sun seems to come from one side, and thus, the shadow will still be taking the shape of the fish, but a bit more to the side. The shadow shows none of this.

Wrong it doesn't prove anything as you've failed to take in to account the fact that the shadow is curving around his body. it's not just the shape of the object casting the shadow its also the subject the shadow falls on.

EDIT 2: Now look at the guy behind, he has his hand on the guy in front. If the light was coming from the left of the photographer, the amount of shadow on the front guy;'s shirt would be less (something like I was saying in edit one) but it seems like to be coming from mid-right with the amount of shadow on the front guy.

Again, the shadows are fine. They are all hard shadows indicating that it was taken on a bright day with no cloud and that is consistent through our the image.

The rear end of the pike does appear to look a little fake, but that could simply be because we are looking for something. I would believe its a genuine photo.
 
dont know why but to me it seems a little off. The background seems to be a lower quality/detail in the picture then the two guys and the fish. The pier seems alittle off to me as well. This could be as AHarvey said we are looking for something to be off.

is it me or is the angle of the left side of the pier off (when compared to the right side)? Also th edge of the left side seems painted on or blurred.

tbh I think this is shopped in three parts the background, the pier and the guys with the fish were seperate pictures.
 
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Without knowing where the light source is i couldn't say for sure, but it does look to me like there should be some sort of shadow on the guy behinds arm...

And pro opinions? OCUK? Don't kid yourself :p
 
dont know why but to me it seems a little off. The background seems to be a lower quality/detail in the picture then the two guys and the fish. The pier seems alittle off to me as well. This could be as AHarvey said we are looking for something to be off.

is it me or is the angle of the left side of the pier off (when compared to the right side)? Also th edge of the left side seems painted on or blurred.

tbh I think this is shopped in three parts the background, the pier and the guys with the fish were seperate pictures.

You could possibly be right, I did notice without really thinking about it that something appears to have been shopped out in the area of water above the right hand side of the fish to the right of the guys hand, but it could just be compression.
 
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