Just some general things...

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Hey Guys!

Im thinking of building my own PC later this year/next year (like xmas/new year time) and I just wanted a few things clearing up.

I am thinking of spending around £500-£600 on the computer itself, excluding monitor and OS. So about £700-£800 total.

I am generally knowing what i will do, but i still dont know what make system to build. AMD is more appealing to me, as it is better for a better price/performance for a more budget gaming PC. I was thinking of rather using a Phenom II X4 BE, but if the new bulldozers are in budget i will use one of those instead.

However with an Intel system it turns out far more expensive. If i build with Intel i will want to be using an i5-2500K, which is a good £70-£80 more expensive than the AMD CPU... And i think the motherboards are generally more expensive too... Also i don't mind looking at any kind of bundles to save on the dosh!

With the GPU, i'm not too sure atm... I've heard the part of both parties, and I can say I was leaning towards the Radeon side as they seemed cheaper for the performance. However i visit Overclockers this morning to find those 'Cheap as chips' Nvidia cards and now i really have no idea! :P
I want a GPU that can play modern and upcoming games (like Crysis, BF3, Skyrim, ArmA 3) at Max settings smoothly, or rather close to this. One thing i can say is, i'm converting to PC, after 10 years of playing on console (since i was like 5) i've decided to buy a decent PC and play games on it instead, because it seems a lot better for me. So i want my PC to be able to play games like BF3, at BETTER settings than on consoles.

Now, motherboards. The things i can say i know least about choosing for my needs. Not that i don't know anything about them, i'm just a little shaky on the ins and outs. I've got the feeling that the Intel compatible ones are dearer than AMD, but anyhow, i'm thinking i need to spend £50-£80 on the motherboard for my PC, but if you feel otherwise please say. I would like them to have 4 slots for DDR3 RAM, and hopefully USB 3.0 ports or connections, and not as important but still, 6.0GB/s SATA II slots :P
Also if possible i would like them to be able to handle SLI or CrossfireX set ups... If there are any problems with this say, like if my budget is too low, or suggest a decent motherboard with it, but not OTT expensive as i'm on a tight budget...

PSU i'm fine with. Find a decent make, like Corsair or Thermaltake ect, and i will probably need a 650w for my single card, and a 750-850w when i do dual cards :/
Yeah, don't skimp it on a PSU, heard this too many times in my research :P

Case i'm not too bothered about. Ill spend up to about £40 or £50 on this, as long as i think it looks good, a few fans (with nice LEDs) for looks and cooling, and enough room for all my components will do me :D

I will probably be using 8GB of 1600MHz DDR3 memory, in the form of 2x4GB sticks so i add more in the future.

I think they are the main parts i need advice on really, apart from the monitor. Is getting an LED monitor an advantage over getting an LCD one for gaming? What should i be looking for really?

That's just about it, so, i hope you can help by offering advice and information on what i have said, and even alternatives, feel free to do anything really!

Thank you!
 
with the AMD vs intel, there is absolutly no reason to go with AMD right now. the i3 2100, even without overclocking, is faster than the Phenom II X4. it may only have two cores, but it can do so much more per clock cycle that it stomps all over the phenom
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/88?vs=289

as for graphics it doesnt really matter which brand you choose from. at certain price points one company will be ahead of the other.

for RAM you only need 4GB for gaming, but with 8GB being so cheap theres really no reason not to get 8GB to make things more future proof

so, heres what i'd do if you want an £800 gaming PC with OS and monitor:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £172.99
1 x MSI P67A-GD53 Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard ** B3 REVISION ** £107.99
1 x Dell ST2220M 21.5" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £99.98
1 x OcUK GeForce GTX 460 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card - Bare OEM £94.99
1 x Antec TruePower New Modular 650W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £71.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Bundle - Home Premium 64 Bit £68.40
1 x Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (WD5000AAKX) £30.98
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £47.99
1 x Zalman Z9 Plus Tower Case with Fan Controller - Black £44.99
1 x Gelid Tranquillo CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940/AM2/AM2+/AM3/LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366) £25.99
1 x LiteOn IHAS124-19 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
Total : £800.99 (includes shipping : £14.75).

the motherboard is SLI and crossfire compatable, and has USB3 and SATA 6GB/s
the PSU is modular (helps with the cable tidying) and is powerful enough to power a second GTX 460 should you want to add one in SLI later
 
Thank you for the help! :D

I think to save myself a bit of money there i could ditch the CPU cooler (as i wont be overclocking, not for a good year anyway) and i could maybe get one of the GTX470's they are selling cheap, or buy a Radeon card similar...
Maybe i could tweak a few things and stuff there, but i like it! :D
(Even though it is on the very upper of my crappy budget :P

Also, if i were to install Windows on a regular HDD, then a year later, could i somehow transfer or re-install it onto an SSD? Like keep everything on the HDD, apart from Windows?

Thanks again.
 
Also, i see the 'OEM' version of things are cheaper than retail, so what do these 'OEM' things not come with that their retail versions do?:

Processors
GPU's
Windows 7

Thanks
 
the OEM processors come without a cooler or thermal paste. they also have a shorter warranty (1 year, not 3 years)
the retail processors come with the cooler and 3 year warranty.

the OEM GPUs come with the graphics card with cooler attached, but thats it. no extra cables, no power adapters for those short on PCIe 6 pin connectors, no video adapters. they also have a shorter warranty (1 year instead of 2-5 years)

the OEM versions of windows are technically not allowed to move motherboards, but i believe a quick phone call can get windows reactivated when you change motherboard. not too sure on the details of that one.
the retail version can be moved from PC to PC without any trouble
 
the OEM processors come without a cooler or thermal paste. they also have a shorter warranty (1 year, not 3 years)
the retail processors come with the cooler and 3 year warranty.

the OEM GPUs come with the graphics card with cooler attached, but thats it. no extra cables, no power adapters for those short on PCIe 6 pin connectors, no video adapters. they also have a shorter warranty (1 year instead of 2-5 years)

the OEM versions of windows are technically not allowed to move motherboards, but i believe a quick phone call can get windows reactivated when you change motherboard. not too sure on the details of that one.
the retail version can be moved from PC to PC without any trouble

Ah, well I will change my motherboard in maybe 2 or 3 years, i guess Windows 8 will be out by then? :P

Thanks for that ^^
 
Sorry for a double post but my previous question went unanswered :(

*Also, if i were to install Windows on a regular HDD, then a year later, could i somehow transfer or re-install it onto an SSD? Like keep everything on the HDD, apart from Windows?*

Thanks
 
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