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Coug, coughClearly what was NOT sauce for the privileged goose, IS jail and a very damaging criminal record for the gander - it seems that these people have no understanding, insight or even a long-term memory :(

You do understand the impact being involved in civil disturbance or rioting has on sentencing, right?

I also haven't noticed any of the rioting, looting scum people like yourself continually try to excuse for their feral behaviour offering to pay for the damage they caused or the goods they stole ;)
 
I also haven't noticed any of the rioting, looting scum people like yourself continually try to excuse for their feral behaviour offering to pay for the damage they caused or the goods they stole ;)

Paying back ill gotten gains only when caught which somehow 'makes things ok' is again a preserve only of the privilaged, ala the MPs expenses scandal.

Something again you rather dislike, the uneven application of justice.

Oh, and SH was involved with the rioting?
 
Paying back ill gotten gains only when caught which somehow 'makes things ok' is again a preserve only of the privilaged, ala the MPs expenses scandal.

It doesn't make it ok, but if people choose not to press charges after the event is settled, that's their choice.

Something again you rather dislike, the uneven application of justice.

Oh, and SH was involved with the rioting?

Missing word, lack of coffee, should have read:

I also haven't noticed any of the rioting, looting scum that people like yourself continually try to excuse for their feral behaviour offering to pay for the damage they caused or the goods they stole
 
... I also haven't noticed any of the rioting, looting scum people like yourself continually try to excuse for their feral behaviour offering to pay for the damage they caused or the goods they stole ;)
I accept that you are probably pretty unaware of the financial status of these people but have you considered the possibility that few of them are 'loads-a-money' old Etonians with millionaire Daddies?

As ever, you subtly introduce a strawman, in this case, the suggestion that all of the people arrested stole something or that you know precisely what those who did said to the Police and/or the courts.


Incidentally, is the casual insult in the first sentence of this paragraph one that you would have allowed to pass back in the day when you were a Don or is it perhaps acceptable when it is directed at someone with whom you happen to disagree? :p
 
It doesn't make it ok, but if people choose not to press charges after the event is settled, that's their choice.

Since it was our tax payers money they stole, I don't remember us being given the choice to prosecute or not?

They did they stealing, then also made the decision not to prosecute themselves, I hardly see that being anywhere relevant to your above statement or equal to the case of the looters in question.

Missing word, lack of coffee, should have read:

Be careful, your slight slip just slandered him ;) ...Eats, Shoots and Leaves
 
Since it was our tax payers money they stole, I don't remember us being given the choice to prosecute or not?

They did they stealing, then also made the decision not to prosecute themselves, I hardly see that being anywhere relevant to your above statement or equal to the case of the looters in question.

Once tax is paid, it ceases to belong to the payer.
 
Privilege, greed and selfishness - the Tory way

I think that there is a chasm in experience between our current crop of politicians and the people whom they pretend to represent. Most of our senior Tory politicians have never actually had to go out and find a job, or in many cases even to do one, they have waltzed straight from their public school onto a PPE course at Oxford and then into politics, perhaps stopping off briefly at daddy's stockbrokerage firm on the way for a little bit of work experience and a few lengthy liquid lunches with some useful chums. They know absolutely nothing of the lives of most people. They have never scrabbled about to pay the rent or had to decide between eggs or tuna, apples or bananas, butter or marge; they simply haven't got a clue. Incidentally, to forestall the usual comments from the Tory fan club, I do realise that this was also true of Blair who was probably even less of a socialist than Norman Tebbit or even the Ghastly Grantham Grocer.

Added to this, they believe that if people are selfish enough and greedy enough, they will get to earn huge incomes which they can then spend on non-essential luxuries, thereby reinvigorating our failing capitalist economy.

The global head of research at one of the world's largest interdealer brokers commented recently that "If Britain is to progress both economically and socially, the relationship between consumerism, role models, upper echelon accountability and productive investment needs to be understood in a way that it clearly has not been over the last two decades", suggesting that the prevailing, encouraged philosophy is that "I buy therefore I am".
 
Whooo another lets bash stockhausen thread....


Him and kwerk seem to have more patience with these forums than the rest of us.
 
I think that there is a chasm in experience between our current crop of politicians and the people whom they pretend to represent. Most of our senior Tory politicians have never actually had to go out and find a job, or in many cases even to do one, they have waltzed straight from their public school onto a PPE course at Oxford and then into politics, perhaps stopping off briefly at daddy's stockbrokerage firm on the way for a little bit of work experience and a few lengthy liquid lunches with some useful chums. They know absolutely nothing of the lives of most people. They have never scrabbled about to pay the rent or had to decide between eggs or tuna, apples or bananas, butter or marge; they simply haven't got a clue. Incidentally, to forestall the usual comments from the Tory fan club, I do realise that this was also true of Blair who was probably even less of a socialist than Norman Tebbit or even the Ghastly Grantham Grocer.

This is true of all of the big politicians, not just Tories.

stockhausen said:
Added to this, they believe that if people are selfish enough and greedy enough, they will get to earn huge incomes which they can then spend on non-essential luxuries, thereby reinvigorating our failing capitalist economy.

Please suggest a tenable alternative to capitalism.

stockhausen said:
The global head of research at one of the world's largest interdealer brokers commented recently that "If Britain is to progress both economically and socially, the relationship between consumerism, role models, upper echelon accountability and productive investment needs to be understood in a way that it clearly has not been over the last two decades", suggesting that the prevailing, encouraged philosophy is that "I buy therefore I am".

And who was in the power for the majority of the past two decades?
 
... few of them are 'loads-a-money' old Etonians with millionaire Daddies?
Why are so many of your posts riddled with this juvenile inverted snobbery?

People cannot change the means their family had when they were born. It's not their fault they were born into wealth. All people can do is to try to achieve the most they can with what they've been given. Would you take jibes at someone because they were born into poverty and that they went to an under performing state school? How old would a wealthy person need to be before you consider them eligible for abuse? Are toddlers from rich families fair game? Which year groups at Eton do you think it would be ok to direct your chip-on-shoulder inspired bile at?

I think you do your political side a disservice.
 
Can you count?

I'm not sure, let me think.

If I'm running a country during a 'boom' period, do I:

a) Overspend
b) Try to keep some money for a rainy day


Hmm. 1+1 = 11?

It couldn't have been Labour, they do no wrong, just ask lolhausen and scorza.
 
Incidentally, is the casual insult in the first sentence of this paragraph one that you would have allowed to pass back in the day when you were a Don or is it perhaps acceptable when it is directed at someone with whom you happen to disagree? :p

funny how you run around taking a pop at the state of peoples english and spelling and dont seem to care about there situation.

guess thats different as its not aimed in your direction. :rolleyes:
 
Do you have any proof?

I'm sure it was Cameron that sold the country's gold?

Lolhausen can you back this up please?

"New Labour" – in government (1997–2010)

so not quite 1.5 decades but close enough

and the only reason Cameron sold that gold is because Labour Overspent, tbh I didn't agree with that decision he could've sold other resources but he foolishly thought he was getting a good price... then the price went up!
 
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