Forza 4

Vonhelmet said:
In the darkest realms of physics, there would be a tiny advantage to be had from having a car slipstreaming you, as it would reduce your drag at the rear of the car.

I read somewhere that the real reason was to combat some cheating that took place in FM2. If you got a mate you could arrange it so that you picked a car with great cornering, and they picked something with great top end speed, then you could literally use the speed car to push the cornering car along the straights, then take the corners at speed in the cornering car, then the speed car would catch up and push you along the next straight. It gave rise to some very silly lap times, because you could basically get some great times in, say, a D class that cornered well because you were using an S class to push it and achieve S class speeds on the straights.

So, definitely something worth clamping down on, though I agree the implementation is a pain in the arse in terms of how sensitive it is.
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your absolutely right with this. on forza two you'd see the #1 car on a low class leaderboard with a massive dent in it from being hit by another car on the start finish straight. throughout the entire start finish straight it would be decelerating because it simply couldnt keep up its massive boost of speed.
there would also be an R1 car or an F50GT or whatever sat in front of it the whole time giving it slipstream.

not surprisingly this was frowned upon by T10 who issued out bans from the leaderboard if you were spotted doing the start/finish line speed bump.

another popular trick on tracks where it applied was to cut or wall ride the last corner to give you a speed boost on the main straight. very popular on TT copperhead and road atlanta short for sure, and probably others as well.

didnt stop me from briefly getting #1 on TT copperhead in D class though :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKJaNWItfPs
 
Spunkey said:
Is it just me who really couldn't give a toss about AutoVista? It's like the stupid feature from TDU where you could 'sit' in the car and beep the horn.
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I'm not too fussed either, now if a manufacturer wanted their latest supercar in AV as it is a good marketing platform, perhaps we'd get some free DLC... imagine motorshow concepts etc..
 
I might be cancelling my preorder for forza 4. Forza 3 is probably my all time favourite racer and forza 4 will be better, but it's a waste of time when the majority of the xbl community is children that can't or won't race properly. Me and a friend did a long sesh the other day, we probably played for 2-3 hours and I think I got two races without being hit off the track.

People think that if they're going faster than you, they have every right to barge you out of the way, even if they're only going faster in one corner and you've hammered them around the rest of the track, the same people think that it's ok to block someone going significantly faster on a straight.

Single player has always been tedious and the kids make the online a miserable experience. It's not so different to halo, apart from that in forza it only takes one person to ruin your whole race.
 
ThomBassmonkey said:
I might be cancelling my preorder for forza 4. Forza 3 is probably my all time favourite racer and forza 4 will be better, but it's a waste of time when the majority of the xbl community is children that can't or won't race properly. Me and a friend did a long sesh the other day, we probably played for 2-3 hours and I think I got two races without being hit off the track.

People think that if they're going faster than you, they have every right to barge you out of the way, even if they're only going faster in one corner and you've hammered them around the rest of the track, the same people think that it's ok to block someone going significantly faster on a straight.

Single player has always been tedious and the kids make the online a miserable experience. It's not so different to halo, apart from that in forza it only takes one person to ruin your whole race.
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just get a top set of ocukers and play with them?
 
TimBrad said:
72% single player done after losing my save last year at 55% determined to finish sp on Forza 3 by the time 4 comes out!! :D
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LOL I'm doing the same :)

I've got all the achievements now bar the big one for winning every race. Did the F class endurance race at Road Atlanta last night, and it made me notice two more things I hope they fix in FM4:

1) The flashback thing doesn't work after about 30 minutes or so. I guess it runs out of memory.

2) The AI players really, really REALLY need to be coded to let you passed properly when you're lapping them :mad:
 
Rewind works fine for me all the way through, although after about 45 minutes it just goes to a black screen with the loading icon for a second rather than a physical rewind.

I like competitive ai, but the Forza 3 ai does seem to want to corner through where you are, no matter if you are there or not!

57 events, 47 days, easy :)
 
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TimBrad said:
Rewind women's fine for me all the way through, although after about 45 minutes it st goes to a black screen with the loading icon for a second rather than a physical rewind.
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I did notice it do that for a while, but near the end of the race - which must have been about 50 minutes in - I rear ended a slow moving backmarker going through the chicane at the top of the hill after T1. Went to rewind and... nothing.

After a lot of swearing i realised the car was ok, although the front suspension and panels were ruined, and managed to finish the last few laps of the race.
 
Found this on neogaf, sums up things nicely!

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One of the things I prefer in Dirt 3 is that the AI is much more granular and much more varied. In Forza you have 3 levels and all it seems to determine is how fast they go. They always corner perfectly and hardly ever pass each other, so it's just a big long train of cars going round the track. In Dirt 3 it seems the cars actually make mistakes or attempt more daring passes, and the difficulty level actually seems to make a difference to their talent rather than just their speed.
 
ThomBassmonkey said:
I might be cancelling my preorder for forza 4. Forza 3 is probably my all time favourite racer and forza 4 will be better, but it's a waste of time when the majority of the xbl community is children that can't or won't race properly. Me and a friend did a long sesh the other day, we probably played for 2-3 hours and I think I got two races without being hit off the track.

People think that if they're going faster than you, they have every right to barge you out of the way, even if they're only going faster in one corner and you've hammered them around the rest of the track, the same people think that it's ok to block someone going significantly faster on a straight.

Single player has always been tedious and the kids make the online a miserable experience. It's not so different to halo, apart from that in forza it only takes one person to ruin your whole race.
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go on the forza forums and you'll soon make plenty of friends who play forza fairly.

also, i hope to god the warthog is in a class of its own, because that being a leaderboard car, or even a slightly competitive car on forza would be such an epic failiure. i see it costs 343,000 credits so it looks like you can race it rather than just looking at it

lasty, i totally agree on the blue flag thing. its also very much needed in online races as well (where you will ghost through people who arent on the same lap as you in races)
 
You can't drive the Warthog. It's available in the AutoVista mode only.

For those that don't like racing in the hoppers, try organised events.
 
The Warthog isn't priced at 343000 in reality, just there as Halo is made by 343 Studios, the Warthog Autovista is apparently unlocked as a secret atm!
 
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