Cameron doesn't care about the UK manufacturing industry

I'm afraid I am not privy to the details, however under the terms of the contract it would have been possible to gain some i.p. In fact why do you think foreign companies tend to buy british firms in the first place.

Bombardier are not a British firm.

There are no British trainbuilders.
 
[TW]Fox;19522442 said:
Bombardier are not a British firm.

There are no British trainbuilders.

I think you've got it here, what was the plan again? Was it borrow lot's of money and spend it all in Germany?... hmmm should work.... for a while.

I could be wrong here, I know, I know, but do bare with me...

Isn't this the problem and how is ordering from abroad going to help this?

actually can I just say Jesus Wept:(
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14712211

If the bidding process for the Thameslink trains was all so perfectly fair competition, why has the government announced a review of the tendering process for the forthcoming Crossrail tender?

Because you can have a process that is fair and open, while still desiring reconsidering the exact rules used?

Remember, the terms of the Thameslink contract were defined by Labour, and there is no grounds to overturn them just because we don't like the outcome, indeed, to do so would be foolish and ultimately futile as we would lose the resulting court case.

I know you find it virtually impossible to be objective and informed about anything involving politics because of your blinkered biases, but a little bit of research never harmed anyone..
 
Because you can have a process that is fair and open, while still desiring reconsidering the exact rules used?

Remember, the terms of the Thameslink contract were defined by Labour, and there is no grounds to overturn them just because we don't like the outcome, indeed, to do so would be foolish and ultimately futile as we would lose the resulting court case.

I know you find it virtually impossible to be objective and informed about anything involving politics because of your blinkered biases, but a little bit of research never harmed anyone..

Why do we need to reconsider the rules? According to the usual right-wingers in here, the system is working perfectly - hundreds of millions of taxpayer's pounds is being used to provide employment and profits in Germany and lazy British workers get laid off.

I've actually been quite impressed with Philip Hammond, the Transport Secretary so far. Especially now he's doing what I've suggested all along and re-shape the rules under which government contracts are awarded. Strange that you accuse me of political bias given the above statement and I do seem to recall being equally critical of the last Labour government over Brown's 'British jobs for British workers' fiasco - when all those British contractors at a UK refinery got laid off and replaced with landed Italian workers. It's peculiar that the aforementioned right-wingers also agreed with that decision, and criticised Brown for his sound bite. They should be equally critical of Hammond then imo, unless they're playing politics...
 
It's peculiar that the aforementioned right-wingers also agreed with that decision, and criticised Brown for his sound bite. They should be equally critical of Hammond then imo, unless they're playing politics...

Why should someone who was critical of someone who was just mouthing soundbites also be critical of someone who actually seems to be doing something? Makes no sense. :confused:
 
There is a great documentary about how the UK got de-industrialized by venture capital looking for short term boosts in the last few decades. Along the lines of Gordon Gecko.

It's called "The Mayfair Set", it's very interesting, you can watch it online.

Although I place equal blame on unions and an inept labour government that got the UK industry in to that vulnerable position in the first place.
 
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