Star Wars Saga on Blu Ray - George Lucas fiddling with it again

I am SOOOO glad I got the original lot on Laser Disc 30 years ago (ish). Digital, unaltered, uncompressed goodness. Yeah, it's only 2 channel and I have to wait for the discs to spin up/down, but what the hey. :D

Beta, LaserDisc, VHS, VHS Deluxe Set, DVD, plus the original radio broadcasts... yeah, I'm sure I'll buy this also. :o
 
Vader from original trilogy is epitome of supercool cold blooded villain. He's the villain of villains. There is nothing in the entire universe that could in any way affect his balance, throw him off target or make him nervous. He's Clint Eastwood and Charles Bronson of the space age western multiplied by a hundred. If you stand in his way. You die. If you slow him down. You die. In the same stoic, cold manner. He doesn't rush through battlefields, he doesn't run through duels. He doesn't get hit by shots, he doesn't bleed from sabre wounds. No Jedi can kill him through the entire saga, it takes his master and dark force to finally finish him off in almost natural "imbalance of the force" kind of way. No extreme temperatures, blasts, explosions, lasers or bullets affect his pace and stop his systematic determination. His heartbeat indicated on the chest panel almost never speeds up. His breath under cold, black, emotionless mask almost never changes. To the last moments of his (by the timeline of original trilogy standards almost timeless) existence, up until he sees his son dying Vader has no emotion and no mercy. And that's what makes the scene unforgettable (by 1980ies standards at least).


And then grandpa Lucas goes on another power trip and changes ultimate dark villain into retarded teenager who dropped iphone into portapotty and now repeatedly screams "Nooooooooo!" "Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!" echoing behind plastic door. It's like a FUUUUUUU guy meme transplanted onto home cinema screen.
 
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Changes I Like - Big Jabba Door, CG Yoda (Puppet looked seriously crap), Blinking Ewoks

Changes That Don't Bother Me - Darth Vader's "Nooo" (Nowhere near as bad as Ep 3, and might add to the scene. Will see in the bigger context of the whole movie.)

Changes I Dislike - Dragon Call (Sounds like someone kicks him in the nuts halfway through the scream).

All in all, I don't mind so much. :)
 
Most of the epic tension in that scene is seeing Vadar look from Luke to the Emperor and back, leaving you in a state of 'will he, wont he'.

It's the only time in the 3 films that you see Vadar flinch and waver.
 
Not sure about the no's but the rest of those are fine


I mean "GYAAARGH the films are ruined, lynch Lucas"

:D

Outrageous, how dare George Lucas modify his art when he releases a new format, I mean he is forcing you to buy it as well isn't he...

I saw the "A new hope" at the cinema on launch when I was 12, I have the original versions and the modifed versions and I love Saga no matter what changes he makes. A lot of the changes are just keeping it "current" so new generations can enjoy it with state of the art effects like we did in 1977.

If you don't like the new versions, stick with your old VHS or DVD versions in all their grainy low rez glory, nobody will force you to buy the new versions.

For those that don't get Vaders redemption, I just facepalm.
 
george lucas is an idiot - he managed to somehow make a classic set of films 30 years ago purely by chance, because he certainly has no idea how to do it again and insists on modifying the classics to make them worse!

he must have had a good team behind him when making the originals and 'they' made them good - george lucas seems to have no discernible talent at all, except for his marketing greed.
 
george lucas is an idiot - he managed to somehow make a classic set of films 30 years ago purely by chance, because he certainly has no idea how to do it again and insists on modifying the classics to make them worse!

he must have had a good team behind him when making the originals and 'they' made them good - george lucas seems to have no discernible talent at all, except for his marketing greed.

Some would call it greed and others would call it good business.

If you owned one of the largest Sci FI franchises in history, that was loved by millions, wouldn't you make money from it?
 
Some would call it greed and others would call it good business.

If you owned one of the largest Sci FI franchises in history, that was loved by millions, wouldn't you make money from it?


sure, but he should recognise that he is a marketing man and not a film maker, and leave the film making/modification to someone who knows what he is doing.
 
sure, but he should recognise that he is a marketing man and not a film maker, and leave the film making/modification to someone who knows what he is doing.

We credit him with these brilliant films but lets think about it, he directed the first one, awesome film and it blew us away because of the visuals we had never seen before, we remember it because it looks amazing but look at the acting and..er...meh?. Then he gets other directors in to do Empire and Jedi, the acting goes up ten notches and the visuals get better.

Fast forward 20 years and Lucas directs the next three films, the acting is bloody dire at best but the visuals are :eek:, if ever there was an example of how bad a director the guy is, it's Eps I/II/III.

He's a visionary but he should never direct anything ever again.
 
Vader from original trilogy is epitome of supercool cold blooded villain. He's the villain of villains. There is nothing in the entire universe that could in any way affect his balance, throw him off target or make him nervous. He's Clint Eastwood and Charles Bronson of the space age western multiplied by a hundred. If you stand in his way. You die. If you slow him down. You die. In the same stoic, cold manner. He doesn't rush through battlefields, he doesn't run through duels. He doesn't get hit by shots, he doesn't bleed from sabre wounds. No Jedi can kill him through the entire saga, it takes his master and dark force to finally finish him off in almost natural "imbalance of the force" kind of way. No extreme temperatures, blasts, explosions, lasers or bullets affect his pace and stop his systematic determination. His heartbeat indicated on the chest panel almost never speeds up. His breath under cold, black, emotionless mask almost never changes. To the last moments of his (by the timeline of original trilogy standards almost timeless) existence, up until he sees his son dying Vader has no emotion and no mercy. And that's what makes the scene unforgettable (by 1980ies standards at least).


And then grandpa Lucas goes on another power trip and changes ultimate dark villain into retarded teenager who dropped iphone into portapotty and now repeatedly screams "Nooooooooo!" "Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!" echoing behind plastic door. It's like a FUUUUUUU guy meme transplanted onto home cinema screen.
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The Obi-Wan noise which scared the Sand people away is fairly cringe-worthy TBH but the "Nooooooo" is just appalling! The 1st "No" is mediocre voice acting but the second longer No should be enough to force the UN to claim back the original Star Wars tapes from Lucas in a dawn raid for the sake of humanity!

My feeling for the whole "messing with the original" is this - Lucas says "they're mine I can do want I want with them til I'm happy" whereas I say seen as we've paid our money they also belong to us "The Public" too. Why couldn't he invite say 100 members of the fan club to view his adjustments 1st to get a fresh perspective rather than the "Yes Men" he must surround himself with. I haven't seen 1 positive comment so far, mostly it's "Don't mind" about the minor stuff (Ewoks blinking, Empire ranks upside-down Corrected etc) but the big stuff & new voice overs get slammed constantly.

However I'm a dumbass and will still keep my pre-order in (not bothering with the 3D versions - don't like it) but I hope he does release the Original versions this decade, can you imagine the sales of that bad boy!
 
but I hope he does release the Original versions this decade, can you imagine the sales of that bad boy!

According to Lucas, they no longer exist. Utter rubbish as only a fool wouldn't keep a copy of the original source *although the negatives are probably almost useless now given the state they were in at the first restoration. Vader was a pale blue. :D

There are people out there who are determined to correct what Lucas has done. Some are pretty amazing considering they're amateurs doing it.
 
According to Lucas, they no longer exist. Utter rubbish as only a fool wouldn't keep a copy of the original source *although the negatives are probably almost useless now given the state they were in at the first restoration. Vader was a pale blue. :D

There are people out there who are determined to correct what Lucas has done. Some are pretty amazing considering they're amateurs doing it.

I find that hard to believe as they released the original cuts on DVD a few years ago.

Lucas is a ****.

Michael Curtiz didn't go back and mess with Casablanca.

Orson Welles didn't screw with Citizen Kane.

If the original cuts of the movies are not included in the Blu Ray I will not buy the trilogy. Note I don't mention the prequels because I refuse to admit they exist.
 
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