US Troops in Iraq, handcuffed and executed an extended family, including four women and five small c

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Even the reporter who wrote the story didn't want to believe it. Could U.S. troops in central Iraq really have handcuffed and executed an extended family, including four women and five small children?

Matthew Schofield of McClatchy Newspapers wrote the story about those allegations more than five years ago, based on reports from Iraqi authorities and a medical examiner in the town of Ishaqi, an incident American forces allegedly tried to cover up with a subsequent airstrike.

From March 2006 until today, Schofield had not been able to put the story out of mind. And now, despite repeated denials by U.S. military officials of any misdeed, a diplomatic cable newly released by WikiLeaks corroborates the newsman's concerns.

"We need a thorough investigation of this," Schofield said. "It's been too long. We need to know what happened in Ishaqi."

It's far from certain we will get a definitive answer. Back then, the war in Iraq had spiraled into its most violent period. The media scrambled to keep up with daily violence. Reporters had enough on their hands trying to account for an attack several months earlier, in which U.S. Marines retaliated for a roadside bombing in Haditha by killing two dozen Iraqis, including women and children.

Today, much of the American public and media have moved on. The deadliest American war is now in Afghanistan. Economic anguish and the odd hurricane fill the headlines. Ten years after the 9/11 attacks, we would all prefer to recall the heroic moments in the war on terror — such as the cops and firefighters giving up their own lives to rescue fellow New Yorkers and the overwhelming majority of troops who have fought honorably for their country.
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More here

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-onthemedia-20110903,0,435906.column

Wikileaks, again the only people providing the real true news. As sad as the news may be. :(
 
There was a shootout, maybe **** happened maybe it didn’t. I doubt whether we’ll ever get the whole story.
 
afterwards you do if you need to. its hard to see what the UN investigator was basing his judgement on

Alston, now a law professor at NYU, said the U.N. Human Rights Council did not have the power or will to respond when requests were ignored.
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however i dont doubt things like this happened but your assertion that
Wikileaks, again the only people providing the real true news.
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is wrong, as in your own link it says the iraqi version of events was widely publicised in US media outlets in the days following.
 
This is what happens when you push flawed recruitment policies and substandard and incomplete training and selection procedures in your armed forces.

That is if it happened in the way reported at all of course. I spent a significant amount of time in Iraq and never saw anything even resembling US troops effectively executing civilians, let alone children. Brutal and questionable practices I saw in bucket-loads from both sides, but things like this, never.
 
I read this story and read the article. I was more than horrified. Serbia (and it's leaders) got charged with war crimes and was invaded when they kill civilians and tried to cover it up. When the US does it's a "political issue". I wouldn't expect anything less from the US than to kill, torture and maim unarmed civillians. It may seem very dark but it's very true.

Seem a lot of people forget the US army also co-operated with the UK MI5 service to torture UK citizens Guantanamo Bay. In fact I draw parallels between our Security Service (SS) and the Nazi SS (Schutzstaffel) both carry out internal security by any means necessary.

It boils down to a question: Is it right to lower our own morality in defence of our country? If we kill, torture, maim do we in effect become our own worst enemy. Is it right and justifiable to torture, kill on a potential hunch.

It breaks down to your own sense of morality really on what you believe to be right or wrong. Quite a lot of people in America would probably agree it was justified for "freedom" on this very principle. I do not personally agree with that point of view, I believe you should never lower yourself to your opponents standard. I accept people think differently but personally it's the sickest thing I've read in a long time.

Other peoples thoughts on here seem to mirror.
 
Quite possible for it to have happened. US Troops have done far worse in the past, look up the My Lai Massacre during the Vietnam War - estimates of between 347 and 507 unarmed civilians, mostly women children and the elderly were killed. Not only that many of the victims were raped, beaten, tortured and mutilated.

Twenty six US Soldiers were charged, but only one, 2nd Lt. William Calley was convicted. He received a life sentence but served only three and a half years under house arrest. In 1974 he was actually given a limited Presidential pardon, by that fine upstanding President, Mr Nixon :rolleyes:

Atrocities tend only to be committed by the losers and the enemy, if you want to read up on Massacres, take a look at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_events_named_massacres
 
Castiel said:
I spent a significant amount of time in Iraq and never saw anything even resembling US troops effectively executing civilians, let alone children.
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Are you really saying we are better at killing civilians and children since the Americans are good at killing us?
 
dmpoole said:
Are you really saying we are better at killing civilians and children since the Americans are good at killing us?
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I'm not entirely sure that sentence makes sense dmpoole, and certainly cannot see how it relates to what you have quoted.

What I am saying is that I never once witnessed or knew anyone that witnessed an US soldier executing an unarmed Iraqi civilian in the way mentioned in the OP. (or any other way for that matter).
 
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