Police should commute in uniform

Being best buds with a copper , the problem at the moment is there's still 45-1hr:30 worth of paperwork for silly crimes. so they literally turn a blind eye at the end of their shifts because they won't get paid anymore for going into overtime.

Apparently, they can't offload it onto another officer coming on shift either, so even if they did take them in chances are they would be released anyway.
 
Mr Jack said:
Not to mention that it either creates a whole load of apparent police officers out there either with no authority to act,
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I could be wrong here but I was under the impression that a police officer always had authority to act and that being off duty doesn't suspend their police powers?
 
Tefal said:
that's not really typical then is it?

That is very specific and incredibly rare the genuinely psychotic aren't all that common.
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Incredibly rare? Lol...get an idea.

The prevalence of clinical psychosis in the criminal population is about 5%. Take this from someone who's worked (as a student) in Broadmoor for 6 weeks. Anecdotally, Many many more have subclinical psychosis and personality disorders, though for obvious reasons there's no reliable data on this.

But none of that is the point. Did I state that only psychotic criminals would attack policeman's homes? I gave an example of a group of criminals who would typically and opportunistically follow a policeman home and attack him and his family. There are many other criminal groups who'd do the same, given the opportunity. You seem to think that the only people who'd do this are ones who'd be capable of planning it regardless of whether policemen were uniformed or not in their commute.

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the guy with the twisted world view where psychotic people with personality disorders waiting to follow them home and kill them are "typical" of all criminals, it's something to calm down your paranoia.
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Learn to read...I said your 'typical stupid criminal'. I then said 'chuck in psychosis and personality disorder for good measure', because, many of these criminals will have an extensive psychiatric history. You know, sometimes you make great posts. But sometimes you often come off as being horribly arrogant and more than a little bit misinformed...
 
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RDM said:
I could be wrong here but I was under the impression that a police officer always had authority to act and that being off duty doesn't suspend their police powers?
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You are right, but without your vest, baton, cuffs and Capta, would you?
 
RDM said:
I could be wrong here but I was under the impression that a police officer always had authority to act and that being off duty doesn't suspend their police powers?
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Er, yes, I think your right. I should probably have used the word 'responsibility' instead. Either these officers are going to be expected to involve themselves in trouble with no backup - something I'd expect their superiors to rightly tell them not to do - or you're going to get uniformed police officers visibly turning a blind eye to crime.
 
OldCoals said:
You are right, but without your vest, baton, cuffs and Capta, would you?
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Not being a serving police officer I have no idea if I would intervene, but surely it would vary dependending upon what was actually occuring? There are certainly plenty of stories of off duty officers intervening to suggest that not being correctly equipped is always an issue.
 
PSNI officers are allowed to take their guns home "for personal protection" they still get gunned down or blown up occasionally and in return still gun down the odd person committing a minor crime.

Police officers are real people too and are only doing a job, they should never be forced to make it part of their personality as it'll just cost lives :(
 
scorza said:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/sep/05/police-commute-uniforms-thinktank

That's the proposal from a centre-right think tank with links to the Conservative Party. The idea is that it would increase police visibility on buses and trains etc and be the equivalent of having an extra 12k police officers on the street. The Police Federation are against this as supposedly it puts officers and their families at risk when people see a uniformed officer leaving a home. My thought about that is that if things have really got so bad that a police officer can't be known as such in his own neighbourhood then the police have already failed society.

I quite like the idea of this, what does everyone else think? :)
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Sounds like a good idea to me - of course being a sensible idea, along many other good ideas, it will probably never catch on! :confused:
 
Think Tanks - A waste of tax payers £

Should eradicate all but the most useful of them (which won't be many)
 
Excellant idea, police visabilty definitely reduces crime and makes people feel safer.

Also the London Police officers recieve £5000 worth of travel perks to get around the city for free, if using public transport. So wearing the uniform to and from work if using public transport should be supported.
 
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Suppose an officer wants to go out for a drink/meal with partner/mates after coming off duty?
Hardly appropriate or relaxing to do this if you're in uniform.
 
Although It may help a little I feel it's a bit of a gimmick. For a start why should only the areas that happen to be on a officers journey to work get additional policing.

Also once an employee has finished work they should be free to wear what they please.
 
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I like the idea from a public perspective - it would be good to have an increased police presence on the streets in most places. However, I can also understand that the coppers themselves might not be too keen on the idea. It is a job after all, and this would essentially extend their working hours either side of the working day by the length of their commute.
 
imo if we need these extra police we should employ them. Getting them to wear their uniforms in their personal time is getting labour for free. I agree with the logic of the OP, but it falls down in practise.
 
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