All iPhone 5 speculation/rumours/wants thread

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To be honest anything better than the 4 for me will seem great as the 3GS just cant cope with the current OS level demands of the hardware under the hood.

Anyone know how long Apple generally give for notice of events before then?
 
hope it hurrys up because android is killing me

people who say its better are either geeks who love meddling or just have net used an iPhone 4. literally everything except the amount of customisation is worse.
 
hope it hurrys up because android is killing me

people who say its better are either geeks who love meddling or just have net used an iPhone 4. literally everything except the amount of customisation is worse.

I didn't really expect much else of a reply coming from you.

Anyway, what 'Android' did you have?

As for the bolded comment, yes quite clearly my dad/aunt and some other older friends/family who use a Droid are anything but geek/tech savvy yet they prefer their HTC and Samsung phones over an iOS Device. They're all PC and Google services users though but that doesn't make them geeky or less special than you.

At the same time my mum's eldest sister and brothers have iPhone 4s which they prefer but they don't even use the devices as smartphones, just that they're iPhones so have some kind of status following them. They only use them to text and call. they have not even registered with the App Market.

Quit making brash statements for the sake of trying to justify your own point of view or an attempt to stand out.
 
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Android has come a long way (especially combined with the Sense UI on HTC devices) and there are some really nice Android phones now, but iOS still has the edge when it comes to simplicity of use and things 'just working'. I suspect those older friends/family may prefer Android simply because it's what they are used to. :)

And there is no denying that no other phone comes close to the iPhone for build quality and generally feeling like a 'premium' piece of hardware.
 
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3G? You poor bugger. :(

I have a 3G that my sister gave to me when she upgraded. I find it fine for my limited uses for just about most of my app uses except games. I thought it was fine until I tried the same game on my wifes Ipad. I really had been playing one game at about 1/2 speed :D

Shame all those 4's going onto the market cannot be sold on the MM. I'd prefer to buy a second hand one from people you know care about their gear a bit better.

So the wait for this 5 to drive the 4 price down is getting on my bits now, the SG2 is getting to a price point where I may just get that instead of waiting now :)
 
Build quality and feel has almost nothing to do with it because all phones (iOS or otherwise) are kept in their cases so rarely get picked up bareback.

Anyway this has been discussed before, the perceived quality feel based on how heavy the phone is is what makes people think something feels better in more occasions. If a phone is uber thin and light then some people complain it's cheap feeling as if it will break in an instant.

I know some people like heavy phones that feel like they're as strong as a brick but I certainly only know a very small handful of those kinds of people.

If we're talking about material quality though, one could argue the iPhone gets damaged and scratched far easier than any other phone because of the materials it uses so it has to be kept in a case all the time to avoid this.

I'm trying to weigh in a good balance between both sides here but the debate keeps falling back on to the same old topics.
 
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I have a general dislike of Apple and how they do things. But when it comes to phones I have yet to meet another one that I want over the iPhone so far. I just want a phone that works, Android GUI is just a bit too fractured to have me happy and not fiddling with it over and over until I'm happy.

Also the hardware quality is just amazing for the cost, hell I would have a Macbook if I could stick windows keys on it, change the mouse button in to two and stick win 7 on it :D

I've yet to see an android phone that can match on hardware, the Samsung Galaxy II S is close but still not as solid as the 4 for me. I'm going to be seriously impressed if Apple bring out a one piece Alu back for the 5.
 
Build quality and feel has almost nothing to do with it because all phones (iOS or otherwise) are kept in their cases so rarely get picked up bareback.

Anyway this has been discussed before, the perceived quality feel based on how heavy the phone is is what makes people think something feels better in more occasions. If a phone is uber thin and light then some people complain it's cheap feeling as if it will break in an instant.

I know some people like heavy phones that feel like they're as strong as a brick but I certainly only know a very small handful of those kinds of people.

If we're talking about material quality though, one could argue the iPhone gets damaged and scratched far easier than any other phone because of the materials it uses so it has to be kept in a case all the time to avoid this.

I'm trying to weigh in a good balance between both sides here but the debate keeps falling back on to the same old topics.

No, I'm not talking about weight (although it helps), I'm talking about materials used, the whole 'feel' of the phone is premium. No other phone comes close to the iPhone for this, that's undeniable fact I'm afraid. Also, I've never kept mine in a case, the only time it is in a case is when I take it to work, all the rest of the time it's naked and still in pretty damn good nick :)
 
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No, I'm not talking about weight (although it helps), I'm talking about materials used, the whole 'feel' of the phone is premium. No other phone comes close to the iPhone for this, that's undeniable fact I'm afraid. Also, I've never kept mine in a case, the only time it is in a case is when I take it to work, all the rest of the time it's naked and still in pretty damn good nick :)

yeah, Apple have never gone for the most practical option. They generally go for the posher/more expensive options. I mean, why the hell would you need a glass back for a phone?
 
The iPhone 4 is still comfortably the best overall phone for me. I own all the best Android phones and I do like them, but even though they are more powerful, they still don't top the iPhone.

To take a slightly harsh(ish) view of Android, like many do of iOS -

  • Customisation is nice, but relatively useless to most people and doesn't 'save' a great deal of time, nor do many of the widgets look nice

  • Widgets, a big selling point, often don't update properly and can be a bit of a faff (you can say otherwise but I've got plenty of experience of them not doing)

  • It generally looks very ugly unless it has HTC Sense running, without that it feels severely under-polished

  • The app market IS considerably inferior on Android, the design of the apps are just a world apart too (in most cases)

  • The iPhone 4 is easily the most satisfying phone to hold and use. I don't think the Galaxy S II is badly made at all, it's light and functional and solid but it isn't satisfying at all. The iPhone 4 oozes quality. You don't NEED it in a case at all, I have it in a leather pouch, perfectly fine

  • Also, Android has all this hardware power, but near on bugger all to utilise it, you'd still think the iPhone was the more powerful phone if you were comparing fancy apps (like games for example)

  • There is STILL no service like iTunes, like it or not, Android offers nothing like it

  • Overall, it's less stable and less reliable overall, and various parts of the OS feel 'cheap'

  • One of my favourite points about Android is the notification system, and Apple have stolen that now for iOS 5 :p

  • Battery life. The Galaxy S II isn't far off but the iPhone 4 still runs away with it.

  • As an actual phone, I think the iPhone 4 performs better than the SGS2, Sensation, etc, but it isn't better than my Bold 9900 for calls and so forth, and nor should it be!

  • The camera STILL holds up to the Galaxy S II camera, it's not quite as good but there isn't much in it. Same goes for the video although the 1080p on the SGS2 is very, very good.

Let's take an example. When I get my phone out, I want to unlock it (with the very solid and satisfying iOS lock screen) and then do something with it. I see all of my options for things to do on the 'horrible' wall of icons and choose what I want to do. Having a widget that saves me pressing a button doesn't bother me at all.

It used to bother me, I used to really like widgets and I still do, but I certainly don't need them and the trade-off to get them isn't even close to being worth it.

I'd like a 4" screen and I hope we'll get that with the iPhone 5. The iPad 2 internals and 1GB RAM would provide a perfectly adequate and stable hardware setup for the next 1 year+. Also, I expect the camera to be quite a bit better too, with perhaps an improved sensor as well as 8MP.

I know mrk isn't going to agree, but that's just my honest view on things and I think I can speak from experience on the matter (as I've used all of the latest devices very extensively; I have most of them).
 
The iPhone 4 is still comfortably the best overall phone for me. I own all the best Android phones and I do like them, but even though they are more powerful, they still don't top the iPhone.

To take a slightly harsh(ish) view of Android, like many do of iOS -

  • Customisation is nice, but relatively useless to most people and doesn't 'save' a great deal of time, nor do many of the widgets look nice

  • Widgets, a big selling point, often don't update properly and can be a bit of a faff (you can say otherwise but I've got plenty of experience of them not doing)

  • It generally looks very ugly unless it has HTC Sense running, without that it feels severely under-polished

  • The app market IS considerably inferior on Android, the design of the apps are just a world apart too (in most cases)

  • The iPhone 4 is easily the most satisfying phone to hold and use. I don't think the Galaxy S II is badly made at all, it's light and functional and solid but it isn't satisfying at all. The iPhone 4 oozes quality. You don't NEED it in a case at all, I have it in a leather pouch, perfectly fine

  • Also, Android has all this hardware power, but near on bugger all to utilise it, you'd still think the iPhone was the more powerful phone if you were comparing fancy apps (like games for example)

  • There is STILL no service like iTunes, like it or not, Android offers nothing like it

  • Overall, it's less stable and less reliable overall, and various parts of the OS feel 'cheap'

  • One of my favourite points about Android is the notification system, and Apple have stolen that now for iOS 5 :p

  • Battery life. The Galaxy S II isn't far off but the iPhone 4 still runs away with it.

  • As an actual phone, I think the iPhone 4 performs better than the SGS2, Sensation, etc, but it isn't better than my Bold 9900 for calls and so forth, and nor should it be!

  • The camera STILL holds up to the Galaxy S II camera, it's not quite as good but there isn't much in it. Same goes for the video although the 1080p on the SGS2 is very, very good.

Let's take an example. When I get my phone out, I want to unlock it (with the very solid and satisfying iOS lock screen) and then do something with it. I see all of my options for things to do on the 'horrible' wall of icons and choose what I want to do. Having a widget that saves me pressing a button doesn't bother me at all.

It used to bother me, I used to really like widgets and I still do, but I certainly don't need them and the trade-off to get them isn't even close to being worth it.

I'd like a 4" screen and I hope we'll get that with the iPhone 5. The iPad 2 internals and 1GB RAM would provide a perfectly adequate and stable hardware setup for the next 1 year+. Also, I expect the camera to be quite a bit better too, with perhaps an improved sensor as well as 8MP.

I know mrk isn't going to agree, but that's just my honest view on things and I think I can speak from experience on the matter (as I've used all of the latest devices very extensively; I have most of them).

Oh I do agree with most of what you have said, don't forget I use (and maintain) the latest devices here at work too and have a leisurely play outside of it on other people's handsets that have been set up and customised whatever way possible :p

End of the day it's all down to what system you will benefit from the most. While the iOS system delivers an unbeatable out of the box experience with only a pinch in the way of customisation (it just works, and works well) I feel that for myself the Android way offers more power and scope but that's just the way I prefer to do things - I care less for the out of the box experience and more about tailoring it exactly how I want whenever I want, and not just phones but anything really.
 
I agree with most but not all, the camera part most notably, the IP4 holds up very well in normal light but the video quality is degraded (blocky, loss of detail in shadows) in any low light when compared to the S2 at the same resolution.

Also the App Market being inferior, of course it would be a few generations behind because it is several years newer than iPhone's Market which has been fully mature for some time. In its current variant the Android Market looks and feels quite polished (although to get it you must install it manually for most phones) but only on higher end devices that can handle the extra polished graphics - that's a bit of a bummer but at least handsets now are sporting more powerful processors and higher res screens as standard.

As many have hinted on these forums, 2011 is the year for smartphones and come Q4 and beyond the real fight begins.

There's a reason why phones like the S2 are selling so well, if people were only interested in how a phone felt in the hand and how polished it was out of the box then those S2 sales would have gone to the iPhone surely!

I think people have or are coming round to the fact that there is definitely competition to an iPhone and it's what they call "that new HTC!" or the "Galaxy with the amazing screen and camera" :p
 
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Also the App Market being inferior, of course it would be a few generations behind because it is several years newer than iPhone's Market which has been fully mature for some time.
That seems to be the common belief, but the App Store was opened in July 2008, the Android Marketplace in October 2008, so only 3 months difference. Admittedly though the Marketplace looks much better now that when I bought the original Galaxy S, it was shockingly bad and difficult to find what you wanted :eek:
 
The biggest problem with the Android marketplace is that its free for all.

Apple is at the other end of the spectrum with the walled garden and the very strict, no religiously enforced rules.

The perfect app store lies somewhere in-between to stop all the porn / spam / virus / pointless apps from cluttering up your appstore, whilst still allowing and encouraging free reign on creativity.
 
I think both will have their fair share of pointless apps because pointless apps appeal to people with time on their hands and that won't ever change :p

The fart button app provides many laughs for the average male office worker... :p
 
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