The Cyborg in Us All

Tefal · 18 Sep 2011 at 14:13

Dr.EM said:
You're talking about undergoing major surgery so you can switch off a light without using the switch. This is a computer forum so it may be an idea you're more used to and will have an unusually high number of people who find such technology legitimate, but the majority of people will find this idea frankly insane. My computer sits here and it works for me, I use it when I want it, I have no wish to have it a physical part of me.

My goodness, I typed this post with fingers, how utterly barbaric!

it's not really major surgery.

people undergo far more major surgery just to have bigger boobs.

Glaucus · 18 Sep 2011 at 14:15

I think most people would reject it at first, bit like laser eye surgery. But after a few decades would get more and more acceptable.

Dr.EM · 18 Sep 2011 at 14:24

I think brain surgery is a little more major than breast enlargement surgery. Perhaps not in scale, but in terms of risk. Those who perform the former certainly need a lot more qualification than the latter!

I expect it may get to the point where no surgical implant is needed to use it, which makes it a little less grotesque as at least you can simply remove it and separate yourself from it completely; but it's still technology which I find, at best, redundant.

Tefal · 18 Sep 2011 at 14:35

Dr.EM said:
I think brain surgery is a little more major than breast enlargement surgery. Perhaps not in scale, but in terms of risk. Those who perform the former certainly need a lot more qualification than the latter!

I expect it may get to the point where no surgical implant is needed to use it, which makes it a little less grotesque as at least you can simply remove it and separate yourself from it completely; but it's still technology which I find, at best, redundant.

it's not really brain surgery though.

his method is just cutting a small piece of skull out and replacing it with a small plug that lays on the brain ,there's not even any cutting though the blood-brain barrier.

atm it's very basic but think about it in it's later years with much better control and precision, being able to work in heavy industry to very small micro scale stuff where you're actually controlling a pair of specialised robot arms etc rather than putting yourself at risk.

Lashout_UK · 18 Sep 2011 at 14:37

I didn't ask for this.

fire_munki · 18 Sep 2011 at 14:59

lokiss said:
Wow/

'Think russian'

Now that wouldn't be referencing the great Clint film Firefox would it? If so that definitely wins you one internet.

Evilsod · 18 Sep 2011 at 15:10

Tefal said:
it's not really brain surgery though.

his method is just cutting a small piece of skull out and replacing it with a small plug that lays on the brain ,there's not even any cutting though the blood-brain barrier.

atm it's very basic but think about it in it's later years with much better control and precision, being able to work in heavy industry to very small micro scale stuff where you're actually controlling a pair of specialised robot arms etc rather than putting yourself at risk.

All I can think of now is the Terminator 3D thing at Universal Studios. The advert they have on before it about a surgeon undertaking complex brain surgery... from a beach the other side of the world.

Skynet is here!

Shayper · 18 Sep 2011 at 15:19

I can has Deus Ex IRL?

Would be awesome!

arknor · 18 Sep 2011 at 15:20

can you imagine how awesome it would be in police interviews , pysch evaluations etc..

no doubt EU would say its against human rights to make someone whos pleading criminal insanity etc to wear one

StriderX · 18 Sep 2011 at 15:23

Shayper said:
I can has Deus Ex IRL?

Would be awesome!

You mean drugged up, riots everywhere, social chaos, governments failing, monopolies under a conspiracy, maniac creator wanting to kill his creation, your implants being stolen while alive...so on.

Yeah AWESOME. :rolleyes:

seandog · 18 Sep 2011 at 15:31

StriderX said:
You mean drugged up, riots everywhere, social chaos, governments failing, monopolies under a conspiracy, maniac creator wanting to kill his creation, your implants being stolen while alive...so on.

Yeah AWESOME.

Hi, have you been watching the news in the last few months?

bloodline76 · 18 Sep 2011 at 15:33

lokiss said:
Imagine just walking in to the house and just thinking 'lights on'... couple it with wireless communication, whole input through what we have with phones, tabs, computers ect.. all done by just thinking it...

Wow/

'Think russian'

Yeah I hate it how we have to use our fingers to turn on the lights. Or clapping for those fancy few

I'm sure I could be doing more productive things with my hands than turning on lights

What a future it will be

Amp34 · 18 Sep 2011 at 15:34

While part of me is interested there is another huge part not...

Pretty much the only thing we have left that are truly private are our thoughts. This would change that.

People already get viruses on their computers, I bet it wouldn't be long before someone could essentially keylog your brain and gather all your thoughts, or intercept those thoughts in the wireless signal. On the same subject thought crime could quite easily become a reality, which is a very scary idea.

How many people think things from "I'm going to kill them!" when they are angry to thinking about undressing someone you see on the street... Well that's "intent to murder" and "rape" right there...

Brian8bit · 18 Sep 2011 at 15:41

I'm big into transhumanism and cyberpunk, so love this kind of stuff. Bring it on.

seandog · 18 Sep 2011 at 15:47

Well I'm already a step ahead of all you squidgy fleshlings, 18months ago I was fitted with a pacemaker at the age of 31

Mand and machine, power extreme

wannabedamned · 18 Sep 2011 at 15:48

Will we all be more susceptible to lightning strikes?

Tefal · 18 Sep 2011 at 15:50

arknor said:
can you imagine how awesome it would be in police interviews , pysch evaluations etc..

no doubt EU would say its against human rights to make someone whos pleading criminal insanity etc to wear one

it would be illegal in all cases to force a suspect to undergo a medical procedure.

Tefal · 18 Sep 2011 at 15:51

Amp34 said:
While part of me is interested there is another huge part not...

Pretty much the only thing we have left that are truly private are our thoughts. This would change that.

People already get viruses on their computers, I bet it wouldn't be long before someone could essentially keylog your brain and gather all your thoughts, or intercept those thoughts in the wireless signal. On the same subject thought crime could quite easily become a reality, which is a very scary idea.

How many people think things from "I'm going to kill them!" when they are angry to thinking about undressing someone you see on the street... Well that's "intent to murder" and "rape" right there...

perhaps some sort of "off switch" then?

seandog · 18 Sep 2011 at 15:53

Only if its illegal, if this was to become reality what's to stop it being legalised in the same way terms of holding without charge were increased, could also make for murder suspects to forgo any civil rights and be legal to proceed with this

Tefal · 18 Sep 2011 at 15:55

seandog said:
Only if its illegal, if this was to become reality what's to stop it being legalised in the same way terms of holding without charge were increased, could also make for murder suspects to forgo any civil rights and be legal to proceed with this

Well that would be such a radical reform of the law that it would probbaly be easier to just remove the law and give the police the power to execute people on a whim.