Dale Farm Cleared Tomorrow?

[LOAM]

What's wrong with my statement then ?

I've said the original application either didn't include the site in question or a subsequent one was refused. I don't know its planning history which is why I stated both scenarios. Ultimately its history is a moot point as its current designated use is greenbelt

 

[Turambar]

Too long have self builders had their permission blocked by local residents who objected to the development without ever even looking at the details of what they were objecting too.

Local residents don't have the power to block anything, if their objection (or support) comments aren't related to valid planning concerns then the local planning authority doesn't have to take them into account. Problems arise when local councillors get involved and demand the application goes to committee where it can be voted on by people with very little grasp of planning law.

 

[Maccapacca]

We had to take tandrige to court twice because they refused permission for two extensions to a bungalow on an acre of land with fields either side and beech hedging to the road however we didn't need planning to build a double garage, dig out and shingle a 200 sq m drive or dig a swimming pool.

However they built "the plantation" in lingfield quite happily

 

[blueboy2001]

Local residents don't have the power to block anything, if their objection (or support) comments aren't related to valid planning concerns then the local planning authority doesn't have to take them into account. Problems arise when local councillors get involved and demand the application goes to committee where it can be voted on by people with very little grasp of planning law.

And then you can appeal the decision where the case will be looked at by an independent Planning Inspector who will look at the facts and come to a decision.

 

[Turambar]

And then you can appeal the decision where the case will be looked at by an independent Planning Inspector who will look at the facts and come to a decision.

Indeed and usually the Planning Inspectorate will only refuse permission if there is a legal reason to do so. They don't tend to care about keeping the locals happy.

 

[seandog]

Hai, i was busy pickling my liver, are they dead yet??

 

[Mucky_Pup]

Hai, i was busy pickling my liver, are they dead yet??

No, unless the retards have died of hypothermia, or fell off of the scaffold. No skull cracking yet.

 

[seandog]

BOOO, in the words of the fuhrer (cartman) its all a bunch of hippy, tree hugging bullcrap

 

[Danthus]

This is an argument for much quicker legal resolution rather than an argument not to bother.

10 years and no end in sight.

 

[Lethagized]

Trouble with this country, just too damn soft. Break those bloody gates open and get em out. If you've tied your neck to the scaffolding, then you'd better shift before we get there.

 

[Efour]

I watched the CH4 Dispatches earlier abotu this to get a bit more detail before i passed judgement but.. I fully agree with removing these inbred scum from the land at any cost.

The law is the law of the land, one for everyone.

Im quite sickened that county councils have to provide sites for them by law, it appears they give nothing or very little back to society except piles of excriment and fly tipped building waste and these councils have to suck it up smiling and clean up after them.

An ex CID copper also commented on a report he had to make to a government inquirey about something or other about gippos and the crime rate spiraling up when they came to town.

I hope the die hard ones get a Doc Martin to their face when they get removed.

One dumb bint was offered a 4 bed council house and she refused it cos its "against her tradition"

They should get them to dig a pit, line them up against it and neck shoot them 1 by 1

 

[Nevakonaza]

I also watched this on Dispatches aswell,I agree that they should be moved on as the one half of the land they are on they dont have permission to be on,But the way i see it they will just move somewhere else close by,Would it not be better to keep them all together?...like out of the way?

It sickened me to hear that they did not charge anyone for flytipping on any of the sites or for the damage they had caused....another thing us taxpayers have to fork out for.

 

[The Funktopus]

MLRS barrage from a Royal Artillery MLRS battery. Then send in the infantry with fixed bayonets for the survivors, it's the only way to be sure.

 

[Maccapacca]

MLRS barrage from a Royal Artillery MLRS battery. Then send in the infantry with fixed bayonets for the survivors, it's the only way to be sure.

Does that include the children and the old and sick?

 

[RDM]

Does that include the children and the old and sick?

As far as I am aware an MLRS does not yet have the ability to distinguish between healthy, sick, elderly and children on impact.

 

[Dolph]

Does that include the children and the old and sick?

While I disagree completely with the use of the rockets, I would point out that they have been given plenty of opportunity to leave and offered alternative accommodation (in addition to the houses they own elsewhere).

Thugs and lawbreakers shouldn't hide behind the you, the old and the sick

 

[[TW]Fox]

The local residents to this settlement didn't seem to have any complaints.

You have spoken to them then?

they send their children to school etc..

How do they manage that if they are travelling? Ah.. perhaps they are not travellers..

 

[Edrof]

How are people arguing that Dale Farm should be left alone?

The occupants have broken the law, the law should be upheld. SIMPLE.

 

[Freakbro]

How do they manage that if they are travelling? Ah.. perhaps they are not travellers..

No, they don't travel anymore, but that's not through choice rather the last 10-20 years of changing the law to remove their ability to travel and forcing them to reside in one place.

Not that I'm condoning the situation we have now, just pointing some deeper facts to what you are hinting at.

 

[TheCrow]

No, they don't travel anymore, but that's not through choice rather the last 10-20 years of changing the law to remove their ability to travel and forcing them to reside in one place.

Not that I'm condoning the situation we have now, just pointing some deeper facts to what you are hinting at.

There is no restriction to travel in the UK for anyone! There is a restriction on trespassing, breaking and entering, damaging property/land....you see the difference? I could take a camper van and travel as much as I like as long as I dont break the law which is what they are/have been doing. Its not a change in law just finally getting round to enforcing it and clarifying loopholes that they have been exploiting.