So anyway, this might sound a bit mean...

SB118 · 22 Sep 2011 at 09:50

"Litter Umbongo is 6 months old and starving death..."

Then give his mother a bloody slap, the famine didn't just show up overnight a couple of days ago, there was already a food shortage when she got knocked up.

Daft bint.

Sooner they stop breeding like flies and start having families they can actually support (hey how about we stop trying to spread 2 childrens worth of food over 6 children, it's a groundbreaking idea i know...) then they might start to have kids that live.

qqg3 · 22 Sep 2011 at 09:52

These adverts also go on for way to long, there was one on C4 the other day that lasted 3 or 4 minutes. It was pretty much repeating itself after 30 seconds!

Vonhelmet · 22 Sep 2011 at 09:58

Slade2 said:
This reminds me of what happened the other day.

I was sitting at home minding my own business watching the TV when there was a knock at the door. There was a young lady there and she explained to me that she was collecting clothes for the starving children in Africa. Instantly and in my most condecending voice i replied.

`If they are starving my clothes certainly wont fit them` and shut the door.

You're so cool. Can I blow you?

Vonhelmet · 22 Sep 2011 at 09:59

SB118 said:
"Litter Umbongo is 6 months old and starving death..."

Then give his mother a bloody slap, the famine didn't just show up overnight a couple of days ago, there was already a food shortage when she got knocked up.

Daft bint.

Sooner they stop breeding like flies and start having families they can actually support (hey how about we stop trying to spread 2 childrens worth of food over 6 children, it's a groundbreaking idea i know...) then they might start to have kids that live.

Infant mortality. Necessity of children for farming labour.

It really helps if you understand some of these things before you weigh in with your opinions.

Amp34 · 22 Sep 2011 at 10:01

Rainmaker said:
One has to wonder how involved Catholic evangelisation against birth control is involved here, tbh. Also with such a high mortality rate amongst infants I dare-say a higher birth-rate is something of an ironic necessity to sustain a population? Just a guess however.

EDIT: Brian8bit said it first. Too busy watching Democracy Now! for Troy Davis instead of typing.

That would all be very well if the populations most African nations (especially the poorest and most starvation ridden) hadn't increased hundreds of percent over the last 50 years.

Yes originally a high birth rate was due to infant mortality but now with modern medicine the high birth rate is more down to anti contraceptives and ignorance/education.

Edit: as an example the African continent has gone from 220 million to 970 million people in the last 60 years...

SB118 · 22 Sep 2011 at 10:01

Yeah, kids die when they get ill from being under fed. Newsflash.

POB · 22 Sep 2011 at 10:07

This was why Sky Plus was invented. Anyone who watches adverts anymore is not planning properly.

Simply put TV on before you need it and build a buffer up.

Amp34 · 22 Sep 2011 at 10:13

Castiel said:
Education, infrastructure investment, debt reduction, modern agriculture programs, water programs, Changes in foreign trade restrictions, Opening foreign and domestic markets to African producers, stop buying up African Farmland for biofuels, and so on..... there are hundreds of ways to help Africa help itself.

They also have hundreds of problems, least of all government corruption and warfare.

And unfortunately the thing we (the west) have no control over is the thing that causes the biggest problem. Africa needs to help itself before the rest of the world can really make a difference IMO.

Vonhelmet · 22 Sep 2011 at 10:18

POB said:
This was why Sky Plus was invented. Anyone who watches adverts anymore is not planning properly.

Simply put TV on before you need it and build a buffer up.

This is very true. Put the PVR on, join the program 15 minutes late, boom - no adverts.

robgmun · 22 Sep 2011 at 10:23

qqg3 said:
These adverts also go on for way to long, there was one on C4 the other day that lasted 3 or 4 minutes. It was pretty much repeating itself after 30 seconds!

I swear at one point the voiceover guy was quite literary begging! "Please...please...PLEASE...give" !!!

They're on so often and repeated so much they certainly lost all meaning now, my brain just tunes them out and my thoughts just drift somewhere else. It's there own fault for saturating the airwaves with this and the effect is diminished.

Still, Chuggers are the worst through. They need to be banned outright

Meridian · 22 Sep 2011 at 10:42

Vonhelmet said:
You're so cool. Can I blow you?

I'm fairly certain he was being sarcastic. But if he was serious, go right ahead.

M

Haggisman · 22 Sep 2011 at 11:06

I always get disappointed by the "Adopt a tiger" ones, when I find out all you get is a stupid cuddly toy and not a real tiger =(

rexehuk · 22 Sep 2011 at 11:32

I'd rather give my money to save animals tbh. There is way too many humans, I'd rather donate my money to stop the extinction of things like the amur leopard.

Don't want to keep people alive who have hunted anything to near extinction. Humans have to be one of the most horrible things to walk this earth, we take everything we want without consequence.

Nerusy · 22 Sep 2011 at 11:43

rexehuk said:
I'd rather give my money to save animals tbh. There is way too many humans, I'd rather donate my money to stop the extinction of things like the amur leopard.

Don't want to keep people alive who have hunted anything to near extinction. Humans have to be one of the most horrible things to walk this earth, we take everything we want without consequence.

Wizzfizz · 22 Sep 2011 at 11:43

Those adverts are always shown on Sky News and I'm guessing many other channels and quite frankly it's something I don't wish to watch whilst I'm trying to eat my dinner. Maybe I should stop watching that channel and then I wouldn't have an issue!

rexehuk said:
Don't want to keep people alive who have hunted anything to near extinction. Humans have to be one of the most horrible things to walk this earth, we take everything we want without consequence.

lolwut

rexehuk · 22 Sep 2011 at 11:46

Wizzfizz said:
lolwut

Is it not true? We breed continuously and wipe out other populations, and when things go **** up we need money to solve it. Goes for every continent, not just Africa.

I would rather put my money towards saving something living where only 10-20 instances of it are alive, rather than putting my money towards saving a species with a population of over 6 billion.

Don't see how that is a "hard" argument to grasp, or at all sarcastic. Those 10-20 instances of a species WILL die off unless they are helped, while a small starving black child is not a worry for me, there will be plenty to replace him. A quite harsh view, granted, but that's my opinion.

Vonhelmet · 22 Sep 2011 at 11:49

Wizzfizz said:
lolwut

He's got a point. The human race has utterly raped the planet.

FARGO · 22 Sep 2011 at 12:05

While I beleive (imo) that charity is a good thing, are the donations being made contributing to anything sustainable.

I remember the "Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day.... give a man a net..." adverts as a child. Anyone know if the money is meant to go towards helping create means for self sufficiancy or if it's being spent on food etc directly?

I should look it up really, but I'm at work. Sorry!

Rameses · 22 Sep 2011 at 12:19

They do try to pull on your emotions yes, but I carry on munching my steak & chips anyway because I do donate.

What I find repulsive is adverts for women's toiletries just when you sit down for dinner, ya know pads & stuff. NOT COOL. :mad:

Tribune · 22 Sep 2011 at 12:21

Sam Kinnison did a routine in the 80's saying they shouldn't drop food they should drop luggage so they could move out of the DESERT where nothing grows. And news crews getting poor Haji to crawl towards them with wide eyes by waving a snickers bar in front of him. Noithing much changes does it.