Look up: Satellite on it's way down

RomanNose · 22 Sep 2011 at 20:50

StriderX said:
Its an offence to take anything from the satellite and by that i mean, it doesn't care for what country you are in.

How does that work? How can America dictate the laws of other countries?

StriderX · 22 Sep 2011 at 20:52

chaosdestro0 said:
How does that work? How can America dictate the laws of other countries?

Are you seriously asking that? :mad:

Vonhelmet · 22 Sep 2011 at 20:54

chaosdestro0 said:
How does that work? How can America dictate the laws of other countries?

If I take my English car to America and an American steals it, have they broken the law?

Extra credit: Have they broken English law, or American law?

RomanNose · 22 Sep 2011 at 20:54

StriderX said:
Are you seriously asking that?

I get it, you are one of the ct guys right?

bitslice · 22 Sep 2011 at 20:55

You'd have to be daft not to nab a bit as a souvenir, if something lands in my garden it's mine. Unless it's radioactive...

StriderX · 22 Sep 2011 at 20:56

Vonhelmet said:
If I take my English car to America and an American steals it, have they broken the law?

Millions perhaps billions of dollars worth of equipment is in that satellite, even crushed by the atmosphere, its still NASA's, for all you know it has something classified in it, in which case it gets even worse.

The UK government will simply go along with it, since the US could use it as leverage.

For the love of god, this has nothing to do with conspiracies, its hardly unbelievable that the US might just want government property back.

RomanNose · 22 Sep 2011 at 20:58

Vonhelmet said:
If I take my English car to America and an American steals it, have they broken the law?

Extra credit: Have they broken English law, or American law?

I know nothing about law, I will have a wild guess at both.
What I am asking is, if it came down in Russia and the authorities did not care about it, what would happen?

Vonhelmet · 22 Sep 2011 at 20:59

StriderX said:
Millions perhaps billions of dollars worth of equipment is in that satellite, even crushed by the atmosphere, its still NASA's, for all you know it has something classified in it, in which case it gets even worse.

The UK government will simply go along with it, since the US could use it as leverage.

It's not even a case of the UK government "going along with it". The UK government recognises the sovereignty of the US, recognises American property law, and has an extradition treaty with the US. There would have to be some pretty weird scenario for it to land in a country and for that country not to recognise America's right to retrieve their property and - if needs be - to prosecute any thieves. You'd basically be talking about it landing in a country that doesn't recognise the USA as a sovereign nation, or one without an extradition treaty who were looking to wind up America, or one with property/theft law so vastly different that it wouldn't be recognised as a theft.

StriderX · 22 Sep 2011 at 20:59

To be honest, as long as you keep it hidden, i suppose its a non issue.

Frankly as soon as the US get a whiff that someone has stolen their things, they usually get angry.

FragnaticDeath · 22 Sep 2011 at 21:00

LOL guys. you are acting as if you are going to win the lottery. there is a less chance for it to land anywhere near you than winning the lottery

touch · 22 Sep 2011 at 21:00

Vonhelmet said:
If I take my English car to America and an American steals it, have they broken the law?

If you take your english car to a place where theft is not a crime and somebody steals it, have they broken the law?

Vonhelmet · 22 Sep 2011 at 21:00

chaosdestro0 said:
I know nothing about law, I will have a wild guess at both.
What I am asking is, if it came down in Russia and the authorities did not care about it, what would happen?

Which authorities - the American authorities or the Russian authorities?

StriderX · 22 Sep 2011 at 21:01

FragnaticDeath said:
LOL guys. you are acting as if you are going to win the lottery. there is a less chance for it to land anywhere near you than winning the lottery

Well frankly, its probably the other way around...but you keep believing that you'll win some day. :rolleyes:

Vonhelmet · 22 Sep 2011 at 21:01

touch said:
If you take your english car to a place where theft is not a crime and somebody steals it, have they broken the law?

That's my point. How many countries are there in the world that don't recognise property law? Pretty much none.

RomanNose · 22 Sep 2011 at 21:01

Vonhelmet said:
Which authorities - the American authorities or the Russian authorities?

Russian authorities.

Vonhelmet · 22 Sep 2011 at 21:05

chaosdestro0 said:
Russian authorities.

Russia, apparently, doesn't permit extradition of its own citizens, so the question is then how much Russia wants to anger America, at which point it becomes a political issue.

StriderX · 22 Sep 2011 at 21:08

Vonhelmet said:
Russia, apparently, doesn't permit extradition of its own citizens, so the question is then how much Russia wants to anger America, at which point it becomes a political issue.

That's their favourite pastime.

Strife212 · 22 Sep 2011 at 21:10

chaosdestro0 said:
How does that work? How can America dictate the laws of other countries?

By sending Seal Team 6 to kill you in your sleep and take the satellite bits back to America.

ScarySquirrel · 22 Sep 2011 at 21:24

I'm going to catch it in my mouth.

Vonhelmet · 22 Sep 2011 at 21:35

ScarySquirrel said:
I'm going to catch it in my mouth.

THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!!!1111