Neutrons: Faster than light?

A Tachyon leaves a bar, the bartender says"I don't serve your kind here", a Tachyon enters a bar.
Einstein knew he was never correct anyway.
Neutrinos also have mass, so I doubt the findings.
 
It is counter-progressive to think that the knowledge we know now is the correct knowledge.

I find it annoying that people simply disregard something like this, due to some insecurity and that if Einstein were proven wrong, we would somehow be disrespecting him.

Frankly its disrespectful not to prove him wrong, that's the point of physics.

Of course we shall wait for more findings, to see if it wasn't simply a glitch and so forth.
 
LordSplodge said:
How can neutrinos be faster than light? They have mass.
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The point is that if they can move faster than light, then the assumption that nothing with mass can move faster than light is wrong, at which point a fair chunk of physics falls over. It's not impossible that we're wrong, but it is unlikely, given the evidence we have on the matter to date.
 
Will certainly be interesting if it turns out not to be just some experimental error, but that's where I'd put my money.
 
Vonhelmet said:
The point is that if they can move faster than light, then the assumption that nothing with mass can move faster than light is wrong, at which point a fair chunk of physics falls over. It's not impossible that we're wrong, but it is unlikely, given the evidence we have on the matter to date.
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Every other bit of physics points in the direction of Einstein being right so I'm not sure this research will lead to anything.

It may well be possible that neutrinos interact with strings and thus travel extra dimensionally and so can appear to move faster than light but I don't think relativity is incorrect.
 
Vonhelmet said:
I would say that they are probably wrong, but the interesting thing will be in finding out why.
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I would tend to assume this, but then i'm not a particle physicist (yet ;)) :p

Even so, it's not like we would suddenly throw everything out the window. The Newtonian model has been proved wrong but it's still used every day, even in incredibly valuable systems such as satellites and probes.
 
It's another great example to give to people who don't understand science about how something can be predicatively very accurate but actually wrong... Not that it actually matters to science, only to people who put faith in the process to be true.
 
Dolph said:
It's another great example to give to people who don't understand science about how something can be predicatively very accurate but actually wrong... Not that it actually matters to science, only to people who put faith in the process to be true.
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Well we should wait for the confirmation/denial from other institutes before labelling things.
 
LordSplodge said:
Every other bit of physics points in the direction of Einstein being right so I'm not sure this research will lead to anything.

It may well be possible that neutrinos interact with strings and thus travel extra dimensionally and so can appear to move faster than light but I don't think relativity is incorrect.
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All I'm saying is that it's never a wise idea, in science, to say that something is impossible. If it appears to have happened then we need to check whether it actually did happen, and then find out how, and then find out why we were wrong the first time.

Now, as I have said, I'm pretty certain they're wrong, but science would slow down pretty fast if we just decided everything we knew so far was 100% right and could never be found to be wrong.
 
StriderX said:
Well we should wait for the confirmation/denial from other institutes before labelling things.
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You act like this is the only situation like this in science, it isn't. Experiments that breach current theories are about (see the delayed choice quantum eraser and the split electron bubble experiments), but without a valid alternative theory to explain them, just a curiosity.
 
Dolph said:
You act like this is the only situation like this in science, it isn't. Experiments that breach current theories are about (see the delayed choice quantum eraser and the split electron bubble experiments), but without a valid alternative theory to explain them, just a curiosity.
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I never said that, im simply saying that more light (no pun intended) be shed upon this current issue.
 
Plus it's just as bad to go around with the attitude that Science is always wrong as it is always right. Science is the only thing actively working to counter all forms of bias. I think this video gets my point across better than i could:

 
Science can only be wrong or not-yet-proven-wrong. It is not supposed to be "right", only as near as possible to "right" as it can currently be based on our research, or near enough for the purposes required of it.
 
PermaBanned said:
Plus it's just as bad to go around with the attitude that Science is always wrong as it is always right. Science is the only thing actively working to counter all forms of bias. I think this video gets my point across better than i could:
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Vonhelmet said:
Science can only be wrong or not-yet-proven-wrong. It is not supposed to be "right", only as near as possible to "right" as it can currently be based on our research, or near enough for the purposes required of it.
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Exactly Von. Science does not care about being right, it cares about useful predictive accuracy.

The only people who want science to be 'right' are those who either don't understand it or want to use the method for things it was never intended for.
 
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