Losing Weight

Meh, never went on a diet in my chuff. I still have 12-15 cans of beer of a Friday night together with a pizza/munchie box and I still lost 25lbs of weight in about 3 months (205lbs down to 180lbs). I swapped foods out for healthier alternatives during the week and that's about it.

Unfortunately I still have a small beer gut but I guess if I gave up the beer I could get rid of it....
 
Don't eat more than 1500calories a day

I would also add not to eat to little, certainly don't go below 1000 calories or you will starve the body and get it storing everything - making it harder to lose weight.

Some people just don't realise whats in certain foods!

I'm proof of that :(

Me too and most of the human population I would guess. I like to think I know a fair bit about this stuff but it is so easy to lose track and find out a diet you thought was pretty good, may have a blip meaning to much fat content from certain foods that are generally good for you. It's a balacing act.

Kinda suprised this isn't posted in the Sports Arena, there is heaps and heaps of info in there and some very good posters who know much much more than me.
 
Atkins diet is subjective to which ever phase you're doing and I'm sure they state that you shouldnt take in more than 20% a day of your calories as saturated fats which is probably why they have such good chl levels. I'd be suprised if any diet worked with huge amounts of saturated fats alone.

Actually lethal, you can have quite a low calorie count and it still be healthy.. the trick is low carbs + all the minerals you need, when I did cambridge diet it was 400-650 calories a day depending on the plan you did. I think mine was 650ish. Comprised of three milkshakes and some chicken or fish or quorn. When you do such a low calorie diet your body goes into ketosis which is basically an acid that goes round breaking down your fat cells for energy, bringing your calorie count back up. I think on average you lose 3lb of fat a week at least that was my losses when I was doing it.

Which works out at 10500 calories a week through fat stores (3500 x 3), giving you an average of 1500 a day ontop of the 400-650.

There are some downsides to ketosis diets, one is very bad breath.. the ketones come out in your saliva, the other is you're meant to stop it at intervals, I think every 12 weeks at the maximum as your hair can fall out (mine never did, not that I noticed anyway) due to your body breaking it down for extra protein.

On the plus side you lose very little muscle to the breakdown as your diet is so highly protein based.. the downside is if you do any excercise you're knackered. Its definately an armchair diet, I did it when I had a lot of time off work.. no excercise what so ever and it just dropped off me and I mean no excercise.. have an en suite so didnt even have to go downstairs for water or a pish :D
 
We and the wife have been losing weight since late last year.
We're both preparing for surgery - she is donating me one of her kidneys and we were both advised to lose some weight.

My wife went the "Weight Watchers" route and found the pointing system very easy to follow and opened up her pallete to foods she didn't use to even think about.
I just really ate what she was preparing - so I was kind of on the same diet by default.

We both increased our exercising too, mainly long walks.
No more taking the car to shops etc.
Result - I've lost 6.5st she has lost 8.5st
Yer - we were both "Nah, we're really not fat" kind of people, but when we look back at photo's from 18 months ago we know we were.
 
Actually lethal, you can have quite a low calorie count and it still be healthy.. the trick is low carbs + all the minerals you need, when I did cambridge diet it was 400-650 calories a day depending on the plan you did. I think mine was 650ish. Comprised of three milkshakes and some chicken or fish or quorn. When you do such a low calorie diet your body goes into ketosis which is basically an acid that goes round breaking down your fat cells for energy, bringing your calorie count back up. I think on average you lose 3lb of fat a week at least that was my losses when I was doing it.

Which works out at 10500 calories a week through fat stores (3500 x 3), giving you an average of 1500 a day ontop of the 400-650.

There are some downsides to ketosis diets, one is very bad breath.. the ketones come out in your saliva, the other is you're meant to stop it at intervals, I think every 12 weeks at the maximum as your hair can fall out (mine never did, not that I noticed anyway) due to your body breaking it down for extra protein.

On the plus side you lose very little muscle to the breakdown as your diet is so highly protein based.. the downside is if you do any excercise you're knackered. Its definately an armchair diet, I did it when I had a lot of time off work.. no excercise what so ever and it just dropped off me and I mean no excercise.. have an en suite so didnt even have to go downstairs for water or a pish :D

Interesting, I never come across that before! I was always under the impression that when consuming so little the body eats away at the muscle first - then the fat cells.

Interesting read none the less, but something I don't think I'll try :)
 
Atkins diet is subjective to which ever phase you're doing and I'm sure they state that you shouldnt take in more than 20% a day of your calories as saturated fats which is probably why they have such good chl levels. I'd be suprised if any diet worked with huge amounts of saturated fats alone.

Actually lethal, you can have quite a low calorie count and it still be healthy.. the trick is low carbs + all the minerals you need, when I did cambridge diet it was 400-650 calories a day depending on the plan you did. I think mine was 650ish. Comprised of three milkshakes and some chicken or fish or quorn. When you do such a low calorie diet your body goes into ketosis which is basically an acid that goes round breaking down your fat cells for energy, bringing your calorie count back up. I think on average you lose 3lb of fat a week at least that was my losses when I was doing it.

Which works out at 10500 calories a week through fat stores (3500 x 3), giving you an average of 1500 a day ontop of the 400-650.

There are some downsides to ketosis diets, one is very bad breath.. the ketones come out in your saliva, the other is you're meant to stop it at intervals, I think every 12 weeks at the maximum as your hair can fall out (mine never did, not that I noticed anyway) due to your body breaking it down for extra protein.

On the plus side you lose very little muscle to the breakdown as your diet is so highly protein based.. the downside is if you do any excercise you're knackered. Its definately an armchair diet, I did it when I had a lot of time off work.. no excercise what so ever and it just dropped off me and I mean no excercise.. have an en suite so didnt even have to go downstairs for water or a pish :D

ketosis has nothing to do with being on a low calorie diet, it's to do with no available Carbohydrate store for the body, the body then starts converting fat for energy instead.
 
Having low or no carbs is stupid. You feel like crap and you have no energy.

Just eat clean and eat 500 calories less than your BMR, it's not rocket science.
 
Atkins diet is subjective to which ever phase you're doing and I'm sure they state that you shouldnt take in more than 20% a day of your calories as saturated fats which is probably why they have such good chl levels. I'd be suprised if any diet worked with huge amounts of saturated fats alone.

Actually lethal, you can have quite a low calorie count and it still be healthy.. the trick is low carbs + all the minerals you need, when I did cambridge diet it was 400-650 calories a day depending on the plan you did. I think mine was 650ish. Comprised of three milkshakes and some chicken or fish or quorn. When you do such a low calorie diet your body goes into ketosis which is basically an acid that goes round breaking down your fat cells for energy, bringing your calorie count back up. I think on average you lose 3lb of fat a week at least that was my losses when I was doing it.

Which works out at 10500 calories a week through fat stores (3500 x 3), giving you an average of 1500 a day ontop of the 400-650.

There are some downsides to ketosis diets, one is very bad breath.. the ketones come out in your saliva, the other is you're meant to stop it at intervals, I think every 12 weeks at the maximum as your hair can fall out (mine never did, not that I noticed anyway) due to your body breaking it down for extra protein.

On the plus side you lose very little muscle to the breakdown as your diet is so highly protein based.. the downside is if you do any excercise you're knackered. Its definately an armchair diet, I did it when I had a lot of time off work.. no excercise what so ever and it just dropped off me and I mean no excercise.. have an en suite so didnt even have to go downstairs for water or a pish :D
Saturated fat is in no way bad for you, and dietary fat/cholesterol has little bearing on blood levels. Sources stating otherwise are using old studies or simply hear-say.
 
Having low or no carbs is stupid. You feel like crap and you have no energy.

Just eat clean and eat 500 calories less than your BMR, it's not rocket science.

Maybe at the start when your body is transitioning, but I eat around 50g or less of carbs a day and my energy levels are fine and I feel better than ever. Do you actually think the natural diet for humans is supposed to be so carb heavy? It never used to be before the massive amounts of refined carbs introduced into our diets. If carbs were so necessary, why would the body even have processes to survive without them? You try and go without fat or protein and you'll die, you can live without carbs just fine.
 
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Maybe at the start when your body is transitioning, but I eat around 50g or less of carbs a day and my energy levels are fine and I feel better than ever. Do you actually think the natural diet for humans is supposed to be so carb heavy? It never used to be before the massive amounts of refined carbs introduced into our diets. If carbs were so necessary, why would the body even have processes to survive without them? You try and go without fat or protein and you'll die, you can live without carbs just fine.

I run/go to the gym 6 days a week, not all of us can survive with sub-normal energy levels. It's easy if you sit on your ass all day and maybe do a light walk or jog once every few days.

Carbs aren't some evil food type that will kill you, cutting them out totally is pointless, it's not necessary at all. If you actually go to the gym having carbs for energy will stop your body using proteins for energy which are better used for muscle growth and maintenance. I'd rather guarantee to keep my muscle mass and to let my body adjust to having carbs on a regular basis, than going cold turkey.


I still eat more g's of proteins than carbs in a day, though.
 
How many fattys were found in the concentration camps? Bar a few guards, none.

So the solution is join a concentration camp, clearly......;)
 
Interesting, I never come across that before! I was always under the impression that when consuming so little the body eats away at the muscle first - then the fat cells.

Interesting read none the less, but something I don't think I'll try :)

Yeah thats what I thought to and I only did it as a friend said it was one of the quickest ways to lose weight and at the time it was actually the easiest diet I found to follow as there was little portion control and it was convieniant.. pickup a tetra, drink it.. drink water, cook a chicken breast.. and being a fatty I was notoriously lazy. Which I'm the opposite to now.. I find I'll just get up and do stuff but being obese made me very lethargic :(

ketosis has nothing to do with being on a low calorie diet, it's to do with no available Carbohydrate store for the body, the body then starts converting fat for energy instead.

I never said it was specifically to do with being only low calorie bud:

Actually lethal, you can have quite a low calorie count and it still be healthy.. the trick is low carbs +

I fully understand its to do with no available carb store but you'll also find that most people can't get into ketosis below 800 calories though few people manage it around 1200calories so the calorie count is important to.

Saturated fat is in no way bad for you, and dietary fat/cholesterol has little bearing on blood levels. Sources stating otherwise are using old studies or simply hear-say.

Yes I agree and I never said out right they were bad for you but in large quantities they are and again back to what I said, people don't realise how much saturated fat and fat in general are in certain products! Water isn't bad for you either but if you drink too much you can suffer from water intoxication.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication
 
How many fattys were found in the concentration camps? Bar a few guards, none.

So the solution is join a concentration camp, clearly......;)

Indeed, yet I'd wager that quite a few people had lost teeth, hair ...possibly nails etc and we all know from the pictures that most of the 'customers' resembled the Crypt Keeper more than Conan the Barbarian.



I've started to think to myself more lately about losing a bit of weight and improving my fitness.

I am 5'9" and I weigh anywhere from 12 stone to 12 stone 4 depending on the day of the week or what I ate the night before.

I'm not fat, but I could really be a lot fitter and certainly I could tone up a lot, I think I'm a bit soft a flabby around the middle really, not that you can really tell unless I am topless tbh. But I do feel that if I don't start to make some changes in my lifestyle soon I will become a fatty eventually and I really don't want that. I don't want to leave it another five or six years and be sitting here at 15 stone feeling sorry for myself. I am 27 now for reference.

I really thought it was time to do something when I had to retire my 34" waste jeans/trousers to a plastic bag in the loft (that was a couple of years ago though and still I have done very little about it) and replace them all with 36" items, now I don't fill the 36" waste out, I do find a belt necessary (I always wore one anyway, always have done) to stop them feeling a tad loose but I do find most 34s a bit too tight now and classic cut jeans with a 34" waste are too tight around the tops of the legs aswell (comfort are ok).

Since I am by no means in the same boat as a lot of other people posting here I guess simply getting some exercise is my best bet ...in all honesty I hardly get any, I get up from my chair regularly, I quite often go up and down a flight of stairs but other than that and walking to my car I don't do any really I just sit in a chair all day.

Having said that I have started to walk a bit lately through some local hills and country side (I have several good country parks and the Worcestershire country side right next to me, luckily) I've been doing it irregularly though, varying from 4 times a week to none for 2 weeks ...I have not noticed any weight loss at all really, but I have noticed walking up the hills has gotten easier for me, I don't feel worn out as quickly now, I guess doing this regularly is the key though ?

I don't eat badly really, I have a decent enough diet and I don't really like a lot of sweet food, I do not have a particularly sweet tooth ...hell I actually like plain porridge, which from the reactions of most people I know seems to be unusual. I also drink very little alcohol, I will have a couple of pints every 2 weeks or so, so not a lot really. I never drink fizzy sugary drinks as I don't like them, typically I drink decaf tea/coffee and herbal teas and lots of cold filtered water, I usually have a glass of fruit juice in the morning also. I cut caffeine out almost completely about two months ago as I felt I was drinking far too much of it due to my propensity to drink so much tea throughout the day ...so I still do ...just without the caffeine. I do not have sugar and I only put milk in black tea and it's just a drop of semi-skimmed, I don't like milky tea.

I do eat rather a lot of white bread though and I have a penchant for pork, especially the skin, (I love pork scratchings too) ...I probably eat a bit too much cheese aswell really, typically I will get through a 400g block a week. But otherwise I think my diet is ok, I typically eat porridge for breakfast, sometimes fruit and yogurt or rice crispies or just toast.

However, I will frequently have sandwiches with 4 slices of white bread at lunch time, usually with some sort of meat on or with cheese/beetroot or even crisps from time to time. So I have started buying those loafs that have smaller slices, so I still eat 4 slices but they are about 30% smaller and of course it requires less filling to make a sarnie too.

So all in all I reckon if I keep the bread eating down a bit and the fatty meat and cheese consumption ...all I really need to do is get some regular exercise and get my heart pumping every day if I can. Anyone disagree with that ?

Sorry if I went on a bit there, I though it was best to try and paint a reasonable picture of how I eat and drink etc. I didn't mention my dinner I know, however as I live at home still I eat what my mother cooks, which is quite variable but it's nearly all home made and typically comes with plenty of veg etc, we don't eat junk food meals and probably only eat take away food once a month.

I would love to eat more fish myself, I absolutely love fish of all kinds and I could basically live on a Sushi diet ...but, the other people that share the evening meal with me do not ...so unless I were to take on preparing all my own meals that's not really possible. Healthy though I am sure.
 
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I've recently tried to lose weight now that I've finished my with studies and can focus on it a bit more, but some of the changes are easier than others. For example I've been trying to cut my carb intake (not drop it compleatly) but my body just seems to want to eat carbs.

On the other hand when I snack between meals I've cut out biscuits and other stuff high in sugar for mixed nuts/seeds without much truoble. I do have a question though to anyone who knows a bit about nutrition, nuts and seeds are meant to be healthy even though they contain fats, but if I have them as a daily snack would that potentially be just as bad in the long term for weight loss as snacking on sugar or carb rich foods?
 
Yes I agree and I never said out right they were bad for you but in large quantities they are and again back to what I said, people don't realise how much saturated fat and fat in general are in certain products! Water isn't bad for you either but if you drink too much you can suffer from water intoxication.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication
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Slightly strange point to make, obviously enough of anything is bad for you. The only reason to know how much fat is in something is for working out total calories. Listing saturated fat separately only serves to perpetuate the myth that you should aim to consume very little of it.
 
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