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6870 vs GTX 460 (Nvidia wins this)

If you do get a 6870 I'd get in sharpish and get one that comes with deus ex and dirt 3 and sell those vouchers deus ex should get £15 dirt 3 £10 at least so you'll have paid a good price for it.
My worry is that the 6870 or 560ti aren't going to be able to max bf3 even at 1680-1050 with a min frame rate of 60.
 
The included dirt 3 and deus ex would sway me to the 6870 if I was in your position, and if you havent played them I suggest you do, both are fantastic games :)
 
From what I've seen 560 Ti is on top when both are overclocked to the max.
Whether that £40 increase is worth that is up to you. I tend to overlook power consumption these days provided the fan isn't crazy loud, as the GPU is idle most of the time and both ATI and NVIDIA have perfected that pretty well.

TBH either way both are solid performers.
 
I have some Nvidia believers here by the looks of it. Its a hard choice, Ive never had an ati card, always had nvidia. Really is a hard one to make my mind up here.
 
C64 said:
If you do get a 6870 I'd get in sharpish and get one that comes with deus ex and dirt 3 and sell those vouchers deus ex should get £15 dirt 3 £10 at least so you'll have paid a good price for it.
My worry is that the 6870 or 560ti aren't going to be able to max bf3 even at 1680-1050 with a min frame rate of 60.
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What is your worry based on? Im told these cards will run all games for a good 3 years more.
 
PanMaster said:
Why do you rate the 560-GTX-Ti so highly?

It costs £40 more, it uses anywhere from 30w to 70w more power at stock, it's slower in some titles such as Crysis/SC2/Shogun2/X3:TC and only comes with 1 free game.
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X3 is an old game (that's more CPU dependent than graphic as it is an one core game) that not many people still play these days, and HD6000 series are know to highly optimised toward Crysis 1. Then we have Stalker series, Shogun 2 and F1 2010 that are highly optimised toward AMD cards. As for SC2 result without AA it doesn't mean much, as usually AMD cards tend to get a greater performance hit when AA is applied.

If you want real, unbiased perfomance indication, you should look at BFBC2's result:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_560_TOP_Direct_Cu_II/7.html

While at stock the GTX560Ti is not a lot faster than the 6870 at 1920 res 4xAA, but on average 6870 would only overclock by 8-10% reaching 5870's speed, where as the GTX560Ti would overclock by 16-20% reaching GTX570's speed.

With that said, the 6870 is quite a bit cheaper than the GTX560Ti and offer one extra game, but I doubt the Dirt3 game can sell for more than £5 with it be released for quite a while, plus the the recent 3 million activation codes that were stolen from AMD4U.com meaning that some codes that come with graphic cards might not work, until the situation is sorted out.
 
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aaronjunited said:
What is your worry based on? Im told these cards will run all games for a good 3 years more.
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Don't worry too much about what people say about "minimum frame rate of 60fps". Realistically most people that don't have a £400+ budget for graphic card(s) they are happy with minimum frame rate of 35fps or above on lesser cards, as it is "smooth enough" for them with the consideration of not having to spend twice the amount of the graphic.

By the way I don't think you have mentioned what CPU you got? Even the fastest card wouldn't make much different, if the CPU is the bottleneck in games (i.e. if you got an old dual-core CPU without a high overclock, it would most like not be faster than a 5770 no matter what faster card you get).
 
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aaronjunited said:
I have some Nvidia believers here by the looks of it. Its a hard choice, Ive never had an ati card, always had nvidia. Really is a hard one to make my mind up here.
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I actually tend to prefer ATI, but at the end of the day I buy whatever has the best overclocking potential, performance, and silence for the money.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
Don't worry too much about what people say about "minimum frame rate of 60fps". Realistically most people that don't have a £400+ budget for graphic card(s) they are happy with minimum frame rate of 35fps or above on lesser cards, as it is "smooth enough" for them with the consideration of not having to spend twice the amount of the graphic.

By the way I don't think you have mentioned what CPU you got? Even the fastest card wouldn't make much different, if the CPU is the bottleneck in games (i.e. if you got an old dual-core CPU without a high overclock, it would most like not be faster than a 5770 no matter what faster card you get).
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I'm getting an I5 2500K, this surely wont be bottleknecking anything.
 
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