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Such a weight doesn't have an effect at those speeds surely?
4 seconds is a substantial amount for such similarly powered cars!
That video just makes me love Nissan GTR's more and more
Bang for your buck that car wins by a country mile.
1 second a lap better than a 458... even Ferrari can't work out why
The GTR makes it look easy, but the noise from that Fezza, WOW!
I thought the times seemed a little fast, but concluded because they were all fast, it was a fair test so no point commenting and concluded it must have been a really good day or something.
That explains that then.
Anyone who has purchased a Veyron can surely afford to run one. They are silly money and completely out of the realms of all but the most wealthy.
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The TTRS I keep posting got stage 1 last week and now has 410bhp, 680nm torque, one word = RAPID!
Pretty impressive if it can time the shifts better than a human, which I assume they feel it must if they're prepared to drag race it like that.
The TTRS I keep posting got stage 1 last week and now has 410bhp, 680nm torque, one word = RAPID!
There is no denying the TT RS is the best performance coupe/hairdresser newish car on the market which is affordable.
40k gets you one of these and with a stage one remap your gonna be getting the following stats:-
0-60mph - 3.5 - 4.0s
0-100mph - 7.5s - 8.0s
60-100mph - 4.2s
60-130mph - 9.3s
OK thats from the speedo and timing speedo's is never too accurate due to speedo in-accuracy and human pressing start/stop on a stopwatch.
But the combination of S-Tronic (DSG), AWD (Haldex), Lightness (1450kg) and a remap the TT RS is without doubt one of the quickest cars on the road.
Having driven one I can tell you they are a doddle to launch, even the manuals which is a rarity for 4WD and turbo cars as they normally bog down or need loads of revs, with the TT RS you just drop the clutch at 2500-3000rpm and you catapult off.
When I test drove one I was tempted, because £2500-£3000 get them upto stage2 (circa 440-450BHP), which results in even better performance than the above car.
Just to give you an idea of how fast these things are:-
My 570BHP Mustang would loose in a race in all situations, out the traps, on a roll etc. Hell not even an M5 V10 can keep with these things with a Stage1 upto 140mph and with a Stage2 they are noticably quicker, probably on par with the new M5.
So yes its a TT RS, but damn they are so quick.
Infact its quite upsetting, the TT RS is quicker than my 911, it also gets hugely better MPG and cost less to service and keep, infact they are a very cheap car to own.
I'd recommend anyone to drive one as in my view its one of the best RS cars Audi have released for ages and its tunability makes it very attractive, yes it understeers and has typical Audi lack of involvment but the suspension and Haldex system can be tweaked quite a bit to give them more feel/fun factor in the handling stakes too.
I'd still take my 911 over one even though its slower for sheer involvment and driving pleasure, but kudos where kudos is due this new TT RS is one mighty mighty quick car out of the box and a simple remap puts it in super-car territory performance wise.
Not manual in the classic sense. Manual as in semi automatic where you use the paddles to initiate a gear change, as opposed to letting the car decide itself what gear to be in.
Not sure if the 911 can do it, but i know that Audi's will automatically change up when you hit the redline in semi automatic mode, as opposed to bouncing you off the limiter. Which means all you need to do is just keep your hands on the wheel and bury your right foot.
A PDK 911 turbo is so insanely fast it's unbelieveable, and i have been in some VERY fast cars.
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My Merc's the same with changing gears - red line and it goes up a gear - I like all semi-auto's are built like this.
With regards to the 911 - Sounds like I need to sign up for the Porsche Experience
This is how easy PDK makes things:-
Thats in the wet, one hand on steering wheel and is not even the S version.
If you remap a 997 Turbo your looking at 600+ BHP just from a remap, crazy!
I know the BMW DCT doesn't do it.
My recent 'experiment' with a loaner car while mine was being fixed, and launch control, had the car launching at 5000rpm, then a load of smoke while the car sat and did nothing while the tyres span and tried to grip, and then when the thing did launch off, it hit the limiter and bounced off it a bunch of times before i finally realised it wasnt going to upshift.
..... i was really surprised at that to be honest. Might have been a setting i was missing but would have thought the rigmarole you have to go through to get it into launch control mode, would have turned this on.
My recent 'experiment' with a loaner car while mine was being fixed, and launch control, had the car launching at 5000rpm, then a load of smoke while the car sat and did nothing while the tyres span and tried to grip, and then when the thing did launch off, it hit the limiter and bounced off it a bunch of times before i finally realised it wasnt going to upshift.
..... i was really surprised at that to be honest. Might have been a setting i was missing but would have thought the rigmarole you have to go through to get it into launch control mode, would have turned this on.
This is how easy PDK makes things:-
Thats in the wet, one hand on steering wheel and is not even the S version.
If you remap a 997 Turbo your looking at 600+ BHP just from a remap, crazy!
You can use LC all day long as well and its fine.... Unlike a GTR where you (as far as i know) stand to lose your warranty or have to put it in for servicing or something if you use it more than a few times per day/week/month/etc.
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that doesn't sound right to me - the spinning of the wheels & the smoke.
the power on my car doesn't go to the wheels until the engine's reached the RPM mandated by sports start/launch control.
It only span the wheels cos the traction was off (obviously) and the road was very slightly damp.
You can adjust the 'clutch drop' rpm of course, depending on road conditions, so it was only cos it was set to the defaults which were no doubt assuming the right level of traction, that the wheels just span for a few seconds before gripping.
You can adjust the 'clutch drop' rpm of course, depending on road conditions, so it was only cos it was set to the defaults which were no doubt assuming the right level of traction, that the wheels just span for a few seconds before gripping.
No denying this, but on tuning side of things both the GT-R and 911 are both very easy to tune to silly horsepower. Both benefit to the tone of 100-150BHP from remaps alone I believe.
Infact it would be good to see the 911 and GT-R ran again with just a remap to see just how much closer they get to the Veyron.
You may have already seen these but here's some links stolen from Pistonheads from an owner of a Turbo S with just a DMS remap. It appears it tunes very well!
vs. 599 GTO http://youtu.be/vkKyKo2gV_E
vs. GTR 650 http://youtu.be/nvxcVRePUEQ
vs. GTR 750 http://youtu.be/U5jxVf4uOAI
[Edit] Original thread - http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=1049703&hw=kav1&nmt=205mph and still pulling
You can't use launch control with traction control on you silly billy
Part of 'race mode' initialisation is turning traction OFF, which then allows you to add an extra bar to the shift speec ferocity, which then allows you to hold the auto mode selector forward for 2 seconds while in neutral to get the race indicator on etc etc etc.
An instructor from Porsche Silverstone told me there's no warranty implications of using PDK LC and that there is with Ferrari LC, he claimed 6 launches in a Ferrari California and the gear box is out of warranty.