£250,000,000 for weekly bin collections
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Deficit is 160billion, 250mil isn't a dent, a lot of area's DO have problems with fortnightly collections, a lot of places don't, how much do you think binmen get paid or should get paid, likewise, its going to generate jobs.
Government should be about spending for jobs required, like rubbish collection, rather than jobs we create with stupid paperwork that isn't required, just to give someone something to do.
Its not great, but I'd take 250mil spending on binmen doing actual work, over 250million on a bunch of people working for the NHS who either turn up and chat on facebook all day, or just don't turn up.
We can afford to increase spending on things that actually get done, while stopping the ridiculous waste.
We have weekly pick up here anyway, we have a huge number of foxes near a tubeline in London, bags stacking up means rubbish everywhere when foxes rip the bags to pieces. Other people have small houses, tiny front gardens and no where to store rubbish, yet other people have huge houses and can afford a bunch of wheelie bins that could store months of rubbish.
250mil/25k salary, is 10k jobs...... for the whole UK, thats not an awful lot of binmen, and certainly not massively expensive overpaid binmen either. 10k extra bin men, at the cost of roughly £4 a year(250mil/60mil) across the country for a service everyone uses.
Money spent on "real" jobs, no problems from me, money spent on benefits and worthless jobs created for no reason weighing down the entire public sector, when most of those new workers barely do any actual real work, huge problem. The issue is, the worthless jobs/benefits are costing the country 100billion + a year.
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We already have weekly bin collections. My neighbours have three kids so their bin is full to overflowing every week. Their recycling bin gets emptied every fortnight and that is usually full as well. I'd be all right with fortnightly collections but I can't see how most normal people would.
It wasn't too long ago that we all took weekly collections for granted.
More often or not I find myself having to take rubbish to the tip on the week we don't get a collection because the bin is full despite maximising the usage of the other three recycling bins. I have to pay for petrol and wear and tear on my car to do this.
I am out in the countryside and I say we need bins collected every week. Seriously all the crap that lays around just encourages the foxes and other small wild animals to go berserk and think its pay day.
I welcome the news that we may be going back to once a week collections again.
Tbh I'd like to see a breakdown of how much tax a person pays compared to where it goes. When you look at it versus population, 250mill isnt a lot. Assuming its either a 1 off payment to the councils or a yearly thing, it works out to less then £5 per person per year. Are you seriously not happy that £5 per year of your money is going to help keep rubbish from piling up?
The trouble is our tax payments are already pulled every which way, and we're operating at a deficit. So it's not just £5 - it's borrowing money to repay at length and taking money away from other things.
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Our council, just outside of Belfats, has and has always had the lowest 'rates' in the UK, despite containing some of the most god-awful estates in the UK. They've never run over budget.
We have 2 bins, black and brown, brown takes garden and food waste, black takes the rest, they are collected on alternate weeks, we have two recycle boxes which are collected by a charitable concern founded out of lottery funding. They collect glass, card, carboard, tins, paper, plastic bottles. Both boxes are collected weekely.
It is a superb system, it works well, and our council is the cheapest. Why are you English incapable of running councils with the remotest hint of efficiency?
We have 2 bins, black and brown, brown takes garden and food waste, black takes the rest, they are collected on alternate weeks, we have two recycle boxes which are collected by a charitable concern founded out of lottery funding. They collect glass, card, carboard, tins, paper, plastic bottles. Both boxes are collected weekely.
It is a superb system, it works well, and our council is the cheapest. Why are you English incapable of running councils with the remotest hint of efficiency?
Well is that really the case?
Well is it 10k jobs? I would imagine that double the amount of rubbish collection would require more than just bin men.
Serious question here, not confrontational. But has our country ever been in the black? Or has any country lol. When I look stuff up it seams like everyone is borrowing from everyone else.
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Why bother with any cost savings then? The answer is because if you look at the bigger picture and take the savings as a whole they all add up to make a worthwhile number!
Family?
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We've a ba, and I would say that does contribe to a large part of our unrecyclable waste, sicne she was born maybe 1/3 of the bin would be filled every 2 weeks with her crappy nappies, but still our black general waste bin isn't full.
I'd say lots of the issues arrive around lack of recycle collection and provision by the council in the first place.
I'd say lots of the issues arrive around lack of recycle collection and provision by the council in the first place.