Female body builders, just why?
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Female bodybuilders disgust me, most look dudeish 
Fitness models are hot though!
I do have a mate in the building trade in the Caribbean who builds roads for a living, always lifting mortar, buckets of concrete etc.. hes well built and eats like a horse, does no weights etc.. but looks like he spends hours in the gym.
Fitness models are hot though! I do have a mate in the building trade in the Caribbean who builds roads for a living, always lifting mortar, buckets of concrete etc.. hes well built and eats like a horse, does no weights etc.. but looks like he spends hours in the gym.
I'm coming to this thread as a rational outsider with critical thinking ability.
As opposed to all the self-proclaimed bodybuilders in here who are thoroughly biased due to their heavy emotional investment in 'bodybuilding'.
What about Layne Norton?
About as natural as sleeping with a dog. Also, not a pro. At least not in the IFBB
How do you know?
He's a 'IFPA & NGA Pro Bodybuilder' according to an article posted in 2007. He also claims to be natural and competes in natural, tested (I realise not all drugs show up) shows.
He is however the only popular pro natural I know of...
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Lets dispel this myth about laborers gaining bodybuilder mass by work alone.
My previous job was at a meat factory where in the average day I would lift/push 20-25ton of meat in an 8 hour shift. Some of the racks I pushed were upwards of 1.5ton. So I lifted/shifted more in a day then a site laborer will in many months.
I have never looked anything like these guys posted. In fact besides gaining a few inches to my arms and legs I actually didn't change all that much, and I done that work for 7 years. And more manual labour work before that (loading ships on docks etc 25kg boxes stacked upwards of 7 foot high in the ships hold...do that 12 hours a day for 6 months)
Now days I couldn't do that as I truly screwed my knees/legs/shoulders up. Taking 600mg of prescription painkillers a day just to keep me mobile. I have shinsplints in both legs, the cartilage in both my knees is pretty much gone and my right shoulder muscle doesn't like being elevated past 45 degrees else I get severe pins and needles.
Gym is still for posers though. Proper muscle is gained through hard graft.
My previous job was at a meat factory where in the average day I would lift/push 20-25ton of meat in an 8 hour shift. Some of the racks I pushed were upwards of 1.5ton. So I lifted/shifted more in a day then a site laborer will in many months.
I have never looked anything like these guys posted. In fact besides gaining a few inches to my arms and legs I actually didn't change all that much, and I done that work for 7 years. And more manual labour work before that (loading ships on docks etc 25kg boxes stacked upwards of 7 foot high in the ships hold...do that 12 hours a day for 6 months)
Now days I couldn't do that as I truly screwed my knees/legs/shoulders up. Taking 600mg of prescription painkillers a day just to keep me mobile. I have shinsplints in both legs, the cartilage in both my knees is pretty much gone and my right shoulder muscle doesn't like being elevated past 45 degrees else I get severe pins and needles.
Gym is still for posers though. Proper muscle is gained through hard graft.
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...Aaannddd therein shows your lack of knowledge in this subject.
The average human cannot assimilate that much protein in one meal. Excess protein is usually stored as fat or excreted out. Approx 50g of protein per meal is the accepted max i think nowadays.
BTW to get 100g of protein out of a portion of meat you must be taking in a lot of meat, which will probably take forever to digest anyway.....hence your body shape? Not trying to be personally offensive kwerk, but dude you gotta think before you start typing. Most of what you are saying is non-sensical based on non-knowledge.
I don't consider myself a bodybuilder (anymore) and i don't think steroids have a place in non-competitive bodybuilding. I don't think female bodybuilders that take it to the extreme are anything short of freakishly scary and ugly. But that's my opinion and people are welcome to differ.
You are stating things as if they are fact, but you simply do not know any better, and are too stubborn to bow the the superior knowledge of those that do know. (not necessarily me btw
) And those that know would be the gym rats, because its what they do.
I wasn't talking about IFBB, more so the natural federations. You say IFBB is the only one that really matters, but to me I couldn't care less about it. I have far more respect for those who compete naturally.
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We don't know. Dorian Yates used to claim the success to his size and conditioning was afternoon naps. He said he never used until he published his alleged cycle in last month's Muscular Development magazine. He lied there too as the cycle is good enough for a swimmer's physique, not a Mr O
You do know the Mr Olympia contest is tested too? And there's enough drugs there to fill a swimming pool.
About Layne, I'm 99% certain he's using, but not all the time. He's been discussed for years. If he is a true natty his genetics was designed and blueprinted by God himself. You just don't get in shape like that without some sauce.
But, he says he's natural and unless proved otherwise, we have to take his word. I just don't believe him.
Well off course. It's much harder getting in shape as a natty and I have more respect for them too. I'm just saying that the IFBB is the big one and you won't see a natural on the Mr O stage. EVER.
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IF you read Steedie's thread and see what he's been through for his contest, you cannot help but have the world of respect for such people. If you're a user then you merely adjust the cycle and the fat starts melting by itself.
Natties > Users when it comes to my respect.
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Is the Mr O actually tested?
I don't trust he's natural... but I give him the benefit of the doubt never the less.
However there's no doubt about Dorian
...Aaannddd therein shows your lack of knowledge in this subject.
The average human cannot assimilate that much protein in one meal. Excess protein is usually stored as fat or excreted out. Approx 50g of protein per meal is the accepted max i think nowadays.
BTW to get 100g of protein out of a portion of meat you must be taking in a lot of meat, which will probably take forever to digest anyway.....hence your body shape? Not trying to be personally offensive kwerk, but dude you gotta think before you start typing. Most of what you are saying is non-sensical based on non-knowledge.
I don't consider myself a bodybuilder (anymore) and i don't think steroids have a place in non-competitive bodybuilding. I don't think female bodybuilders that take it to the extreme are anything short of freakishly scary and ugly. But that's my opinion and people are welcome to differ.
You are stating things as if they are fact, but you simply do not know any better, and are too stubborn to bow the the superior knowledge of those that do know. (not necessarily me btw
50g?
I thought it was even less then that. I'm not buying this protein per pound of bodyweight theory. Everytime I done it I just gained fat. I do about 100-150g of protein a day and I'm still gaining muscle.
However, that's what everyone is saying and I can't prove otherwise. I just know that it doesn't work for me.
Is the Mr O actually tested?
I don't trust he's natural... but I give him the benefit of the doubt never the less.
However there's no doubt about Dorian
Yep. But they only test for duiretics Afaik. Unless it's changed recently. I think after Munzer died in 1995 it was brought in.
Apparently Dorian used to inject 'localized' as well as the normal route. Up to 5g a week and that's Pr, En and Cy (abbreviated for forums rules) EACH because of the different half-lifes of the compounds. Makes my eyes water. It's absolutely insane to think about it. Add all the other things too and the man was literally a walking chemical experiment.
I'd assume that some of the arguments in here centre around what people consider bodybuilding to be.
I'd say some are simply referring to steroid abusing beasts we'd seen in some of the pics posted whereas other might well consider it to encompass any male with a gym membership who drinks protein shakes etc...
I do a mix of cardio and weight training to stay in shape - I used to do a lot more fitness training when I had a military career to worry about too but these days I guess part of the weight training is for vanity in addition to building/maintaining some level of strength. I wouldn't however consider myself to be body building/a bodybuilder - the main aim of my working out is to stay fit and I'm not interested in bulking up too much - thus I'm quite happy to do rather a lot of cardio...
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I wasn't a fan but then a friend of mine started training for figure competitions and looks amazing. Toned, but still feminine, and just incredibly dedicated. I have the utmost admiration for what she has achieved in a short time and it's kinda changed my perception.