27" 3d 120hz 2560x1440

david_129 · 4 Oct 2011 at 08:38

When do you guys this sort of tech might be avalible? or do you think it's a sort of pipe dream for 3d noobs like me?

Andrew Moore · 4 Oct 2011 at 08:40

That resolution requires dual link DVI. 3D requires dual link DVI... so based on that I can only assume the bandwidth required exceeds dual link DVI.

Maybe a new standard is just around the corner?

david_129 · 4 Oct 2011 at 08:45

Never even considered it to be a bandwidth issue, perhaps monitos might come out which flick between 2d full res and then 1080p 3d?

cmndr_andi · 4 Oct 2011 at 08:55

I'm pretty sure Display Port 1.2 could drive two 120Hz 2560x1440 monitor (since it can drive two 60Hz 2560x1600 monitors with one cable).

The big barrier at the moment is likely the lack of 120Hz DP monitors and the lack of 2560x1440 (or larger) TN panels - which would be required for 120Hz (as all the current ones seem to be IPS, and thus not up to 120Hz). Also, you need a beefy card to run 3D on a 1080p monitor, that only gets worse when you basically double the resolution.

david_129 · 4 Oct 2011 at 08:59

Yep g card requirments will be immense

pmc25 · 4 Dec 2011 at 14:41

With lots of talk of 120hz IPS & PLS monitors in 2012, does anyone reckon many 2560x1440 120hz monitors (either TN or IPS / PLS) will be shown at CES in January?

With the 7xxx Radeon cards launching (and hence lots of new DP 1.2), it would seem a good time to launch.

PCM2, anything you know?

Surveyor · 4 Dec 2011 at 15:40

a) 120Hz monitors are a fairly small segment of the market

b) 2560x1440 monitors are an even smaller segment of the market

Put the 2 together and it would be a specialised, niche product unsuitable for mass production and expensive if produced in small numbers.

Just my thoughs on the matter with absolutely no evidence to back it up

pmc25 · 4 Dec 2011 at 16:08

Surveyor said:
a) 120Hz monitors are a fairly small segment of the market

b) 2560x1440 monitors are an even smaller segment of the market

Put the 2 together and it would be a specialised, niche product unsuitable for mass production and expensive if produced in small numbers.

Just my thoughs on the matter with absolutely no evidence to back it up

There were less than 5 options for 120hz at this time last year ... now, probably about 30

Things move on.

TDevlin · 4 Dec 2011 at 16:11

I was also wondering the same question as the op, as to when this technology will become available. As it seems we may be a while off and choices need to be made in the mean time, which one is more important for gaming?

Is it best to go for the higher resolution of 2560x1440 at the expense of 3d, or opt for 1080p gaming in 3d?

I'm thinking resolution will add more to the experience and that the 3d is more of a novelty, but I've not played any games in 3d so I'm only guessing.

Surveyor · 4 Dec 2011 at 16:18

pmc25 said:
There were less than 5 options for 120hz at this time last year ... now, probably about 30 Things move on.

Things move on but we're nowhere near the point where a 120Hz 2560x1440 monitor, even if it's launched, would be anything other than a niche and expensive product.

My point stands.

gropingmantis · 4 Dec 2011 at 16:19

Maybe start seeing them next year when graphics cards might be able to cope. Would love a 2560x1600 120Hz monitor not for **** 3D but just for gaming would be the best monitor I reckon.

pmc25 · 4 Dec 2011 at 16:38

Surveyor said:
Things move on but we're nowhere near the point where a 120Hz 2560x1440 monitor, even if it's launched, would be anything other than a niche and expensive product.

My point stands.

This site is niche. Most of what it sells are niche, expensive products. Most of what people speculate about or buy on these forums are niche, expensive products.

pmc25 · 4 Dec 2011 at 16:39

TDevlin said:
I was also wondering the same question as the op, as to when this technology will become available. As it seems we may be a while off and choices need to be made in the mean time, which one is more important for gaming?

Is it best to go for the higher resolution of 2560x1440 at the expense of 3d, or opt for 1080p gaming in 3d?

I'm thinking resolution will add more to the experience and that the 3d is more of a novelty, but I've not played any games in 3d so I'm only guessing.

3D is a gimmick. I feel like I couldn't go back to 60hz, though ... even for productivity. It's so much smoother and reduces eye-strain.

Surveyor · 4 Dec 2011 at 16:57

pmc25 said:
This site is niche. Most of what it sells are niche, expensive products. Most of what people speculate about or buy on these forums are niche, expensive products.

This site is niche.

No it's not.

The shop and forum are frequented by all sorts of PC users and non-PC users.

Most of what it sells are niche, expensive products.

No they're not.

OcUK sell a full range of PC products most of which are not niche and expensive.

Most of what people speculate about or buy on these forums are niche, expensive products.

No they're not.

Most people speculate about/buy mainstream products.

pmc25 · 4 Dec 2011 at 17:31

You're wrong on all counts, it is a niche.

Surveyor · 4 Dec 2011 at 20:05

pmc25 said:
You're wrong on all counts, it is a niche.

Your detailed and precise response to my points has overwhelmed any reply I could make :rolleyes:

I supposes you might think it's a niche site as this is a rare visit for you outside of the CPU section of the forum

And I'll tell you what would be niche. A 2560x1440 120Hz monitor

pmc25 · 4 Dec 2011 at 20:26

It occupies a miniscule niche of a very large market. Only a vanishingly small fraction of consumers would ever know of, order something from or much less post / read the forums here.

It's the very definition of a niche.

Surveyor · 4 Dec 2011 at 20:55

Define your chosen market large enough and you could describe virtually anything as niche.

But none of this detracts from my original point.

It'll be a long time before a 2560x1440 120Hz monitor, if it comes into existence, is anything other than a rare and expensive beast.

phill1978 · 5 Dec 2011 at 00:34

back on topic slightly

im looking forward to some user reviews of the new 27" 1440p LED PLS Samsung monitor, with mild tweaks its meant to have deep accurate colour and low ghosting as it is based on the Galaxy tab screen technology.

bit sad its not 85hz-120hz (not bothered about 3d just adding smoothness is what i need)

Its good to see so many LED 27" 1080p monitors at a surprisingly low price but there is a reason there cheap:

edge lit LED, TN panel, 6bit colour, only 1080p, cheap build, no portrait

My 25" HP is on the fringe of acceptable for its DPI @ 1080p, I had an LG at 22" 16:9 and it was crisp at 27" its just not really a monitor DPI and getting towards looking like a crisper HD-telly.

i belive 1440p gives you more screen real estate but i could be wrong

kylew · 5 Dec 2011 at 01:01

Andrew Moore said:
That resolution requires dual link DVI. 3D requires dual link DVI... so based on that I can only assume the bandwidth required exceeds dual link DVI.

Maybe a new standard is just around the corner?

Shame on you for forgetting about Displayport!

pmc25 said:
This site is niche. Most of what it sells are niche, expensive products. Most of what people speculate about or buy on these forums are niche, expensive products.

It's only niche if you looked at it on a world wide scale. Niche or not though, it's still a very large market where companies can make a good profit.