**Tesla Model S** The first nail in the internal combustions engines coffin?

Is that a full charge in 45 minutes, or one of those 'quick charges' that actually only charges to about 70% and destroys the batteries quicker?
 
Is that a full charge in 45 minutes, or one of those 'quick charges' that actually only charges to about 70% and destroys the batteries quicker?

Most fast charges are well under 45 minutes.

It's a bit sketchy but their Info, says 45mins for a full charge. So I'm assuming(until more info is released) it'll be like 20odd minute fast charge with a slow charge for the last little bit.

Also it's generally 80% for fast charge and rising with new models.

As for destroys the battery quicker, that's not really an issue with new battery tech. Even with fast charge the packs still last more than long enough. Also I fully expect battery packs to be rented, so again bulls that issue even more. Renault is going this way to start with and only offering rented packs.
 
It looks fantastic. The touted range for a single charge sounds fantastic. But it will be interesting to see performance figures out in the real world. Would also like to see pictures of 4 adults actually sat in it. I have a feeling the back seats will be for those under 5 ft 10 inches.
 
why reversed rear seats? would be horrible to sit in...personally I like the look of it.



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The pic with the reversed seats doens't look a pic set from the S does it? As behind the reversed seats there are 3 head restraints and other pics shows only 2 seats and head restraints.

On the other hand it could be an option but the pic of the reversed seats just look plain wrong to me.

EDIT: I take it all back, the reversed seats were pulled up from the floor pan, so an eek from me :)
 
I thought electric cars were never going to take off due to not them not actually being that environmentally friendly?

Could this country actually provide enough electricity at a rate cheaper/equivalent to petrol?

Or have I missed some news/breakthroughs?
 
It looks good, but what really annoys me, are the companies who go: "Look at us, this is our new electric car, the "e-Car-i780-edition+", and it produces 0 emissions."

Unless they're able to magic up electricity, or are actually using solar/wind directly to charge the cars, its just bull****.

Still, looks nice :)

Please fully star swearing in future.
 
I thought electric cars were never going to take off due to not them not actually being that environmentally friendly?

Could this country actually provide enough electricity at a rate cheaper/equivalent to petrol?

Or have I missed some news/breakthroughs?

I dont think the reason you cite is the major item against electric car takeup....
 
I thought electric cars were never going to take off due to not them not actually being that environmentally friendly?

Could this country actually provide enough electricity at a rate cheaper/equivalent to petrol?

Or have I missed some news/breakthroughs?

Since oil will eventually become too expensive to use in powerplants (let alone cars), we'll eventually be forced to switch to renewables and nuclear anyway.
 
It looks good, but what really annoys me, are the companies who go: "Look at us, this is our new electric car, the "e-Car-i780-edition+", and it produces 0 emissions."

Unless they're able to magic up electricity, or are actually using solar/wind directly to charge the cars, its just ********.

Still, looks nice :)

Well two points. For advertising it is and always has been onboard emissions. Otherwise you would have to calculate production, shipping and everything else. So it makes total sense.
Secondly a lot of energy does come from renewables and you can even have renewable tariffs. As well as renewable energy massively increasing.

So it's far from BS.
 
I thought electric cars were never going to take off due to not them not actually being that environmentally friendly?

Could this country actually provide enough electricity at a rate cheaper/equivalent to petrol?

Or have I missed some news/breakthroughs?
Of course we can and that is how the infrastructure is being updated. Which is already under way. Over 3billion investment a year in the national grid on upgrading it for the 21st century, renewable energy and electric cars.

Can it happen over nit of course not. But that's like saying first petrol car need the thousands of petrol stations overnight.
 
Nobody mentioned overnight transition.

I was just thinking that surely we need to power these power stations with fossil fuels?

I have no time to research it all sadly. Future UK nuclear plans etc, so if it's all pretty clearly planned then feel free to educate me, if you so wish.
 
Read up on the 2020 and 2050 European energy road map.
And the national grid upgrade, both current one and the 8years 2013 onward one.
 
Under what conditions was the 300 mile range achieved?

300 miles of motorway driving, or 300 miles of constant 40mph?

Maybe if I never, or at least very rarely, did any long-distance driving of 200+ miles at a time...

Initially at least I'd expect electric cars to provide an ideal replacement for the second car in a two car household. It'll be the one which is only ever used for one or two short return journeys in a day then plugged in again to be ready for the next day.
 
Is that a 45 minute charge from empty? If it is then they are getting very close to making it a practical proposition as very few people in the UK do 300 mile 1 way trips on business so it could enter the fleets once they get the economies of scale right and charging points in car parks.
 
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