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Will there ever be a £60/70 Radeon 5850 like there was with the 4850 last year?

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The 4850 came out in late 2008 and by march 2010 you could get one for £60/70.

It seems the 5850 won't become as cheap since it came out in late 2009 and it is already late 2011. Infact it seems to be no longer in production.

Will VTX3D or Sapphire or XFX ever release a cheap 5850 around ~£70 to £80?
 
Surveyor said:
You need to read this thread.
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I read that thread and it got me thinking, why doesnt the 5850 cost £60/70 cos its predecessor the 4850 was available at that price point earlier in its lifetime.

Right now you can get a GTX560 which is equivelant to the 5850 for around £140.

Which is still way too steep compared to last year when the 4850 was a high end last gen card.
 
no, not comparing to the previous gen, in regards to games available the 5850 performs now far better than the 4850 did in games last year, maxing games with 1080+ res, also features available are comparable to this years high end pieces, 4850 could not boast the same at the time.
 
Thats got nothing to do with it, as in, even slightly.

Its pretty simple, 4850 was made on 55nm, 5850 was made on 40nm, 6850 is made on 40nm.

5850 production DID NOT STOP 4850 production, because its a different process, in a different fab, and for the sake of volume there was little reason to stop production instantly. Remember as demand for the older process goes down, and becomes "older" the wafer cost price goes down aswell. The 4850 remain a highly competitive, cheap, high yielding and tiny core for AMD to make.

The 5850, wasn't tiny, had decent yields, but a worse process where the wafers cost more, the 6850 completely replaced production of the 5850 because it was made on the same line. So its a completely different situation. If the 6850/6950 type cards were all being made on 32nm, and wafer costs of 40nm dropped, and it was financially viable, the 5850 would continue to have been built and sold ever cheaper.
 
drunkenmaster said:
Thats got nothing to do with it, as in, even slightly.

Its pretty simple, 4850 was made on 55nm, 5850 was made on 40nm, 6850 is made on 40nm.

5850 production DID NOT STOP 4850 production, because its a different process, in a different fab, and for the sake of volume there was little reason to stop production instantly. Remember as demand for the older process goes down, and becomes "older" the wafer cost price goes down aswell. The 4850 remain a highly competitive, cheap, high yielding and tiny core for AMD to make.

The 5850, wasn't tiny, had decent yields, but a worse process where the wafers cost more, the 6850 completely replaced production of the 5850 because it was made on the same line. So its a completely different situation. If the 6850/6950 type cards were all being made on 32nm, and wafer costs of 40nm dropped, and it was financially viable, the 5850 would continue to have been built and sold ever cheaper.
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ahh ok thanks for explaining that.
 
drunkenmaster said:
Thats got nothing to do with it, as in, even slightly.

Its pretty simple, 4850 was made on 55nm, 5850 was made on 40nm, 6850 is made on 40nm.

5850 production DID NOT STOP 4850 production, because its a different process, in a different fab, and for the sake of volume there was little reason to stop production instantly. Remember as demand for the older process goes down, and becomes "older" the wafer cost price goes down aswell. The 4850 remain a highly competitive, cheap, high yielding and tiny core for AMD to make.

The 5850, wasn't tiny, had decent yields, but a worse process where the wafers cost more, the 6850 completely replaced production of the 5850 because it was made on the same line. So its a completely different situation. If the 6850/6950 type cards were all being made on 32nm, and wafer costs of 40nm dropped, and it was financially viable, the 5850 would continue to have been built and sold ever cheaper.
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Well that's the complicated version.

The simple version:

They're not going to sell you a 5850 for £80 when it's faster than a 6850 they're selling for £120.:)
 
The graphics card market is fairly messed up when looking at AMD's offerings. I believe the 6850/70's replacing the 5750/70's and the 69** series are only marginally faster than the 5 series the market is a bit flooded. How they are going to price the up-coming 7 series without reducing stocks of 6 series to throw away prices I just don't know?
 
I bought a 4850 512mb on release day from here for £115 so £60/70 much later on wasn't as good a bargain as you think it was. 5850 was £190 on release for a few days then then £200. From £200 it still went up and most of them were about £220-240 as the card was 1 year old.
 
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