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Liquid cooling coming with AMD 7000 series
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Vapour Chambers from the looks of it, nothing really new, 5970 onwards had them. Id be more interested in seeing them use a better fan instead of the one thats been doing the rounds for the last lot of years. Its almost like they bought an absoloute ton of stock of them and want to get their moneysworth.
Ditto, that's just the vapor chamber (squished heat pipe) found on any vapor card. If they start using the same fans as the vapors as stock, then ill be interested but improvement is improvement in stock cooling - which is pretty bloody rare.
Yup, looks like vapour (or vapor as it's more commonly known 
) chamber cooling. Some Sapphire cards and high end Nvidia cards use them. They're more efficient than the standard heatpipes, so should lead to better temps/noise levels.
) chamber cooling. Some Sapphire cards and high end Nvidia cards use them. They're more efficient than the standard heatpipes, so should lead to better temps/noise levels.
I went xfire 6950>70 in January to the shouts of 'the new one will be out on October', 'waste of money as it's not worth it'.
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Jesus, the AMD q2-3 speculation has ALL come from the same damn website, and softpedia repeats it, and while he claims the desktop parts are coming later, theres no quote, and he's actually just refering to his previous article.
I've said before and I'll say again, it could be true, theres absolutely no proof either way, one guy from a small website publishing big stories that NO ONE else(except known worthless sites) has run with suggests its not true.
I could post up a link saying Ivybridge will launch mid July, it could happen, doesn't mean I really knew it was going to.
Also, I really don't know why some people can't read. Its NOT vapour chamber cooling,
http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/AMD-Radeon-HD-7900-GPUs-Will-Use-Liquid-Chamber-Cooling-4.jpg/
Its really not that difficult, vapour chamber, based on evapouration, wicking and being difficult to manufacture, the picture shows it.
In reality, both are gimmicks, most of the better heatsinks that have vapour chambers, also have better fans and usually better heatsinks aswell and thats where all the actual cooling increase comes from. Same way with older AMD cards you could remove the shroud, strap on a fan and have massively better cooling, much quieter, and better overclocks with significantly lower temps.
People buy into gimmicks more than common sense or actual proof. Like reviewers using non exhausting cards, seeing little to no case temp increase, seeing no loss in cpu overclock or large temp increases, seeing hugely improved gpu cooling, better overclocks and better noise. Yet still a huge number of people refuse to buy cards that don't exhaust because "they're better".
Tiny heatsink with low airflow, cooling is absolutely limited by the airflow and small surface area, the ability to move the heat across the base faster..... when its not getting removed fast enough, is literally worthless.
I've said before and I'll say again, it could be true, theres absolutely no proof either way, one guy from a small website publishing big stories that NO ONE else(except known worthless sites) has run with suggests its not true.
I could post up a link saying Ivybridge will launch mid July, it could happen, doesn't mean I really knew it was going to.
Also, I really don't know why some people can't read. Its NOT vapour chamber cooling,
http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/AMD-Radeon-HD-7900-GPUs-Will-Use-Liquid-Chamber-Cooling-4.jpg/
Its really not that difficult, vapour chamber, based on evapouration, wicking and being difficult to manufacture, the picture shows it.
In reality, both are gimmicks, most of the better heatsinks that have vapour chambers, also have better fans and usually better heatsinks aswell and thats where all the actual cooling increase comes from. Same way with older AMD cards you could remove the shroud, strap on a fan and have massively better cooling, much quieter, and better overclocks with significantly lower temps.
People buy into gimmicks more than common sense or actual proof. Like reviewers using non exhausting cards, seeing little to no case temp increase, seeing no loss in cpu overclock or large temp increases, seeing hugely improved gpu cooling, better overclocks and better noise. Yet still a huge number of people refuse to buy cards that don't exhaust because "they're better".
Tiny heatsink with low airflow, cooling is absolutely limited by the airflow and small surface area, the ability to move the heat across the base faster..... when its not getting removed fast enough, is literally worthless.
Caporegime
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To be fair, both the rumours aren't known to be accurate at all, and the 6990 is still a very very poor card. Significantly louder than 2x6950's/6970's, costs more than xfire either of them by a significant margin, and overclocks less well.
You can get the same performance out of 2x£180 cards. The 6990 was bad on launch and with the possibility of replacements fairly soon, worse value.
Theres fairly few cases big enough to take the length of a 6990 that can't fit 2 shorter cards comftably though there are a few situations.
Who exactly was telling you the new ones were out in October so it was bad value? THe 6950/70 came out in mid december and, weren't really available till days before xmas, January was where the 6970/6950 would have had the highest sales probably of any month and for most people the first time they could have picked one up...... yet people were telling you the new cards were out soon, somehow that comes across as BS.
If a cards out for 12 months, buying in the first 3 months you'll obviously get best value out of it, the next 3 months, its not that its bad value, its just if you were buying this generation you've spent 3 months using an old card for no particularly good reason
The 6-9 month range, not awful time to buy but you might want to think that if you lasted the first 6 months, why not another 6, spend the same money and get twice the performance, the final 3 months, just bad value, card will half its value, and the same money not long after will get you double the performance.
I've only seen people, myself included start saying its probably better to wait from August or so, which is about the right kind of time.
