as i said in the other thread if u guys keep thinking Piledriver will magicly turn this round , you'll be thinking wrong because Piledriver will only be 10%~ fester than BD, also intel as they new chips next year which will bring 5%~ boost so u guys will still be moening about Piledriver being behind..
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AMD Piledriver, finally coming soon!
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It does look pretty bad, I'll certainly not be buying one of these first stepping BD chips. Will be interesting to see if they can salvage it in some way though...
Come the next round of Intel chips I think I'll be looking for an upgrade. I just can't see AMD having anything that will compete. Would be happy to be wrong though and as ever, I'll be going for best value for cash.
Come the next round of Intel chips I think I'll be looking for an upgrade. I just can't see AMD having anything that will compete. Would be happy to be wrong though and as ever, I'll be going for best value for cash.
Intel don't have monopoly, even "fail" products from AMD will keep Intel's price down, a fx8150 is priced at £220 and performs 10% worse than the 2600k, intel can't afford to price the 2600k any higher because people aren't willing to pay too much for a slight increase (Aside from enthuisiasts, Benchmarkers and overclockers)
What exactly was fail about the Win8 beta? I thought it was quite good. Test drove it on an old Tosh tablet and was impressed
ha, the amusing thing about the whole 'Windows 8 Fail' thing is the fact there is apparently going to be a decent improvement for Bulldozer, I think given a better OS that makes the best use of its attributes and Global Foundries sorting out the whole 'my goodness my CPU is like a bucket with holes in it...' in terms of leakage then Bulldozer could in theory still be a decent contender, the whole purpose of the exercise was to have a scalable, modular architecture that was very strong in heavily multi-threaded environments (servers! unfortunately!) and that would be at least as good as their previous generation in single-threaded applications whilst giving much much better power saving options, granted something has went amiss in that respect but again that could be down to the OS inefficiently issuing tasks to the processor, so keeping modules active that would in an optimised environment (servers!) be idle, switched off and saving power!
in multi-threaded workloads it fares rather well in comparison to Intel, its rather competitive, it just falls down a bit in single-threaded tasks and this isn't helped by the fact the clock speeds aren't anywhere near what they were supposed to be, all I will say is lets just keep one eye on this space cause never know what something as simple as fixing the process might do!
in multi-threaded workloads it fares rather well in comparison to Intel, its rather competitive, it just falls down a bit in single-threaded tasks and this isn't helped by the fact the clock speeds aren't anywhere near what they were supposed to be, all I will say is lets just keep one eye on this space cause never know what something as simple as fixing the process might do!
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Hehe.
I actually hope one day AMD will beat intel, they're good on the Graphics front, but when it comes to CPUs, they fail
They did.
Many days ago.
And then C2D arrived to change the game.
ergh, after using for years and kinda rooting for amd to make a comeback this must seal the coffin lid
was it 5/7 years development? and they came up with this monstrosity? WTF people
get global foundries to buy them out and hire some decent engineers that dont play pong all day...
was it 5/7 years development? and they came up with this monstrosity? WTF people
get global foundries to buy them out and hire some decent engineers that dont play pong all day...
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ergh, after using for years and kinda rooting for amd to make a comeback this must seal the coffin lid
was it 5/7 years development? and they came up with this monstrosity? WTF people
get global foundries to buy them out and hire some decent engineers that dont play pong all day...
dont be fooled into thinking AMD is dead, these current gen CPUs have all been a farse to cover up till AMD Cheesegrater is released in 2018
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PileDriver?
* gets coat *
* gets coat *
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It reminds me more of NV30 aka Geforce FX, it was also launched late to big expectations and underperformed and overheated; it's almost like AMD were also aware of this and branded Bulldozer "FX" as a tribute.
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Do they all connect together to make Devastator?
No.
But in an attempt to bring AMD back the outcome is generally the same.. Devastated!
Massive delays, excessive hype, runs way too hot and hungry, performs below expectations ? (not to say Fermi was bad, just -way- less than we hoped for)
*hides*
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so much hate for amd
I don't think it's hate, on the whole it's more disappointment really, no doubt some people's communication skills are ...limited, and it might look like they are trying to convey hate, but I don't think so really, for the most part.
I think most of us in the enthusiast community realise the importance of AMD.
sad thing is you all think this revelation of bulldozer being total horse **** will make a massive difference, how many of you actually sell pcs/components, you all forget that this is an enthusiast forum, the average user dosent even know what a bulldozer is or even a sandybridge is for that fact, so how can they judge which is better, they cant ( fact ), big companies like dell/asus/msi/ etc etc are the ones who actually sell masses of pcs that will actually make the difference with the choice of which components they choose to put into their systems, they make or break companies like intel or amd.
I think it will still sell by the bucket load, my brother and his wife were looking for a new laptop recently, which they will use for internet and youtube and thats it, the sales guy convinced them that quad core was best, i was trying to explain that an i3 laptop was best for them they did not need what he was selling them, guess who won out in the end , they even comprised on screen size to get more cores (i mean wtf). 8 cores will sell regardless of how good they are tbh.
, they even comprised on screen size to get more cores (i mean wtf). 8 cores will sell regardless of how good they are tbh.