Downloading TV Shows.

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I have a license.
I pay for Sky
I pay for Virgin
I have Tivo and Freeview

Does that mean i am still not allowed to download TV shows which air on the above subscriptions?
Why?
Discuss.

What if one was to watch the tv shows on a PC as this is their preference, whilst they are tasking with something else?
Should be legal no?
And cannot download from their services.

i guess someone made a good point, the people distributing it do not have the rights to do so?> True? Any leway on that?

Only shows that have aired already. Not shows that havent aired yet.
 
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Yep, the laws are out of date.

They were talking about updating the laws especially so you can change format (ie you buy on cd and make it legal to transfer this to a digital format), but so far nothings happened.
 
Obviously depends how you download it, I was under the impression most channels had their own on demand service so this is kind of an non-issue?
 
VinceB1 said:
Why would a man pay for both sky and Virgin?
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Is it buy one get one free? :P
Sky One

What if one was to watch the tv shows on a PC as this is their preference, whilst they are tasking with something else?
Should be legal no?

Only shows that have aired already. Not shows that havent aired yet.
 
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Think of it this way, most services that you have a contract for don't allow you to just go and steal that product/service whenever you want it, you have to go via the official channels (no pun intended).

Furthermore chances are there are restrictions placed on the TV channels as to when they can or cannot broadcast said shows. They might have a license to broadcast only on a certain date for example.

I don't think it helps that digital distribution of media (tv, films, music, games...) started life largely as piracy before it became adopted by mainstream corporations, so it is viewed as generally a bit dodgy. Also a lot of the time the places that make this content available aren't restricted to people who might have a 'legitimate' claim to the content, they just make it available to everyone. Even worse, some use P2P for distribution which means that for example people who download via e.g. torrent may be uploading to others who shouldn't have access.
 
grandmaster said:
I have a license.
I pay for Sky
I pay for Virgin
I have Tivo and Freeview

Does that mean i am still not allowed to download TV shows which air on the above subscriptions?
Why?
Discuss.
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legally your not allowed , morally i dont see whats wrong if its only AFTER its aired on a channel you have anyway.

downloading a tv show months before it even airs in this country i dont think is right, you could get for example an american itunes acount and buy the episodes though ;)
 
grandmaster said:
I have a license.
I pay for Sky
I pay for Virgin
I have Tivo and Freeview

Does that mean i am still not allowed to download TV shows which air on the above subscriptions?
Why?
Discuss.
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Sure you can as long as you use there system. Both Virgin and Sky have a webpage for downloading TV and films. I watch all my sky on my computer via http://go.sky.com/. Do not know the Virgin page but they have one as well.
 
Pottsey said:
Sure you can as long as you use there system. Both Virgin and Sky have a webpage for downloading TV and films. I watch all my sky on my computer via http://go.sky.com/. Do not know the Virgin page but they have one as well.
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virgin have one but the few times ive tried itsw never working for me.. i think its the exact same on demand stuff you can choose on your cable on demand services anyway
 
I don't see the problem with it.
There are lots of silly laws in this country that need to be removed or changed, it's a shame that civil liberties is something the government hardly cares about. This is why I am worried about potentially leaving the EU, I don't want this country to turn to North Korea overnight.
 
It is most odd. I can't understand why it is illegal to download an episode in the UK which has aired in the US. It's for my own viewing. So what if I want to watch it before everyone else. I'm hardly going to run around the streets telling everyone what has happened.

Most ondemand services are country specific, for instance, you can't technically watch BBC iPlayer, 4od, etc in the US and you can't technically watch ABC (or similar) in the UK.
 
Lucero said:
It is most odd. I can't understand why it is illegal to download an episode in the UK which has aired in the US. It's for my own viewing. So what if I want to watch it before everyone else. I'm hardly going to run around the streets telling everyone what has happened.

Most ondemand services are country specific, for instance, you can't technically watch BBC iPlayer, 4od, etc in the US and you can't technically watch ABC (or similar) in the UK.
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Because you haven't paid for it.
It's not like buying a DVD and importing it. Unless like above you are using an American iTunes/zune account and purchasing it. Anyone know. The law on that, I'm assuming it's not against the law, but just against the user agreement. So just closing your account, rather than breaking the law????
 
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Because tv stations pay to make the shows and pay for the rights to air shows they didnt make themselves, they recoup that by adverts and the license fee.

Wherever you download it from doesnt have or hasnt paid for the rights to distribute or rebroadcast those TV shows. When you download it illegally you dont count towards advertising revenue.
 
1LANCS said:
Because tv stations pay to make the shows and pay for the rights to air shows they didnt make themselves, they recoup that by adverts and the license fee.

Wherever you download it from doesnt have or hasnt paid for the rights to distribute or rebroadcast those TV shows. When you download it illegally you dont count towards advertising revenue.
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But what if you pay for a Sky subscription and download the shows they'll be showing in a few months? (as used to be the case with their US programming until recently)
 
I don't see the issue, as long people who download are paying for a tv package that shows it at some point and they don't keep it forever, if media are making a profit they've got nothing to complain about.
 
AcidHell2 said:
Because you haven't paid for it.
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Neither have the Americans who've watched it.

Whilst legally its a rather grey area, morally I think there is a world of difference between pirating paid content and pirating content thats available on free to air television in other parts of the world.
 
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